Re: [re-ECN] ECN fundamentals pt2/2
Matthew Ford <ford@isoc.org> Fri, 02 October 2009 09:11 UTC
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Subject: Re: [re-ECN] ECN fundamentals pt2/2
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On 02/10/2009 09:28, Mirja Kuehlewind wrote: > Hi Michael, > > On Friday 02 October 2009 07:32:18 Michael Menth wrote: >> Apart from that, I wonder whether a monthly congestion allowance or a >> maximum congestion rate can be sold to the customer because that is more >> abstract and harder to verify for the user. Even I do not know what I >> get for a congestion allowance of 1 MB/month or a maximum congestion >> rate of 10 KB/s. That was one of the criticisms I've heard when >> discussing about re-feedback. Opinions? >> > I don't see that you have to sell the congestion rate to the costumer. It's > just one part of the contract which will have some more or less meaningful > names like "fast access" or "high speed access". People don't know what the > max. access speed in todays contracts means neither... +1. Furthermore, I think we should probably call 'rathole' whenever the question of how congestion volume gets translated into commercial contracts or marketing is raised. Mat
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