Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion Exposure community?

["Piers O'Hanlon" <[e-mail]>]

Hi Bob,

We just had a chat about our ECN/RTP draft and wondered what
implications re-ECN (or PCN) would have apart from us avoiding the use
of the Nonce?

Cheers,

Piers

2009/9/9 Bob Briscoe <[e-mail]>uk>:
> Piers,
>
> At 12:51 08/09/2009, Piers O'Hanlon wrote:
>>
>> I know I'm a little late but I'd like to register my interest in this
>> BoF. I'm involved in some drafts using ECN for RTP which would be
>> relevant to such work.
>
> If we get moving, you might end up adding re-ECN to RTP at the same time as
> you add ECN :)
>
>
> Bob
>
>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Piers O'Hanlon
>>
>>
>> > Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 17:33:36 +0100
>> > To: [e-mail]
>> > From: Bob Briscoe <[e-mail]>
>> > Subject: Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion Exposure community?
>> >
>> > Folks,
>> >
>> > I'd like to try to arrange a Congestion Exposure (re-ECN) BoF in Nov at
>> > the Hiroshima IETF. If so, we have to notify the area directors v soon - by
>> > 24:00 UTC Mon 7 Sep 09. #1 gating function for Area Directors: activity on
>> > an ietf list.
>> >
>> > Therefore, pls respond preferably *on this list* if you're interested in
>> > being involved, no matter how insignificantly, e.g.
>> >
>> > - you want congestion visibility for other stuff you're doing
>> >  (but don't intend to work on it itself)
>> > - reviewing docs,
>> > - alternative way to achieve congestion exposure
>> > - participate in mailing list discussion,
>> > - co-authoring docs
>> > - design ways to do incremental deployment
>> > - using code for other stuff you're doing
>> > - thinking up new uses for the protocol
>> > - breaking it
>> > - analysing benefits/costs
>> > - implement protocol
>> > - implement a demo
>> > - running or participating in trials
>> > - standing on the sidelines booing or clapping
>> > - whatever
>> >
>> > Perceived problem:
>> > Most people want to work on something finite like a new cool
>> > non-TCP-friendly congestion control. Less people want to go into an
>> > pseudo-infinite loop fixing IP to allow other cool stuff to happen. If you
>> > want something like re-ECN to be there, but don't have the bandwidth to work
>> > on it, that's cool too - please say this - it's still palpable support. And
>> > you will be likely to have review comments related to how you want to use
>> > it.
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> >
>> >
>> > Bob
>> >
>> > ________________________________________________________________
>> > Bob Briscoe,               Networks Research Centre, BT Research
>>
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