[re-ECN] Pls bash: Congestion Exposure (re-ECN) BoF in Hiroshima?
Bob Briscoe <rbriscoe@jungle.bt.co.uk> Wed, 02 September 2009 16:36 UTC
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Subject: [re-ECN] Pls bash: Congestion Exposure (re-ECN) BoF in Hiroshima?
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Hi Folks,
I'd like to try to arrange a Congestion Exposure (re-ECN) BoF in Nov
at the Hiroshima IETF. Pls bash the following proposals.
A/ Basic idea: Expose Congestion at network layer, so operators can
encourage endpoint behaviours that minimise congestion while
maximising performance (e.g. LEDBAT).
B/ Which Area?
I suggest we should notify Int Area & Transport Area, but I imagine
Transport Area would own this.
C/ Community (see separate mail)
D/ Ultimate documents to deliver (draft charter milestones):...?
1. (INF) Motivating cases for congestion exposure
2. (EXP) protocol spec (re-ECN is one proposal)
- choosing an encoding in IP, plus alternative encodings in an appendix
3. <if the encoding uses bit 48 in IPv4>
(STD) Reassign value 1 of bit 48 from 'reserved' to 'experimental use'
Also describe conditions on experiments, e.g.:
- confined in space and in time
- multiple simultaneous experiments with same value would need v
strong case
4. (INF) Report(s) on experimental uses of protocols
E/ Supporting text to work on
- BoF Description (by 07 Sep 09 BoF deadline - Monday!!)
- Proposed BoF Agenda (by 28 Oct 09 WG agendas deadline)
- Problem statement (by 19 Oct 09 I-D deadline)
- Protocol proposal(s) (by 19 Oct 09 I-D deadline)
- have I missed anything?
F/ Other requirements
- What's the "elevator pitch"?
- Demo? Of what? The protocol, or a use of the protocol? What use?
- BoF Chairs x2 (Rich Woundy has volunteered)
_____
Minutes of Stockholm Bar BoF where we discussed this, and links to
supporting docs so far:
<http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/tsv/trac/wiki/re-ECN>
Bob
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Bob Briscoe, Networks Research Centre, BT Research
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