[re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion Exposure community?

"Costas Courcoubetis" <courcou@aueb.gr> Thu, 03 September 2009 08:08 UTC

Return-Path: <courcou@aueb.gr>
X-Original-To: re-ecn@core3.amsl.com
Delivered-To: re-ecn@core3.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 886EF28C125 for <re-ecn@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 3 Sep 2009 01:08:40 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: 0.001
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CV6m-Q44M8Id for <re-ecn@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 3 Sep 2009 01:08:39 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [83.235.67.30]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5A763A694E for <re-ecn@ietf.org>; Thu, 3 Sep 2009 01:08:37 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from ARISTOTELIS (athedsl-4446670.home.otenet.gr [79.129.201.190]) by aiolos.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n8386IHR001691; Thu, 3 Sep 2009 11:06:18 +0300
From: "Costas Courcoubetis" <courcou@aueb.gr>
To: "'Bob Briscoe'" <rbriscoe@jungle.bt.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 11:01:31 +0300
Message-ID: <018c01ca2c6c$bf94f1a0$0601a8c0@ARISTOTELIS>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838
Thread-Index: Acor65WPVff4MpaFTP2hPwChgBQ74gAgMu/g
In-Reply-To: <200909021633.n82GXbsp012052@bagheera.jungle.bt.co.uk>
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350
Cc: re-ecn@ietf.org
Subject: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion Exposure community?
X-BeenThere: re-ecn@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9
Precedence: list
List-Id: re-inserted explicit congestion notification <re-ecn.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/re-ecn>, <mailto:re-ecn-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/re-ecn>
List-Post: <mailto:re-ecn@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:re-ecn-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/re-ecn>, <mailto:re-ecn-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 08:08:40 -0000

Bob,
I am very much interested. Especially in staying on the sidelines booing or
clapping. Also looking at incentive issues, interconnection implications,
etc.

Costas

Prof. Costas Courcoubetis
Dept. of Computer Science
Athens University of Economics and Business
Patission 76, Athens 10434
Greece
+302108203653 (Office)
+302108203686 (Fax)
+306944357951 (Mobile)
courcou@aueb.gr
www.aueb.gr/users/courcou/
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: re-ecn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:re-ecn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf
> Of Bob Briscoe
> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 7:34 PM
> To: re-ecn@ietf.org
> Subject: [?? Probable Spam] [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion
> Exposure community?
> 
> Folks,
> 
> I'd like to try to arrange a Congestion Exposure (re-ECN) BoF in Nov
> at the Hiroshima IETF. If so, we have to notify the area directors v
> soon - by 24:00 UTC Mon 7 Sep 09. #1 gating function for Area
> Directors: activity on an ietf list.
> 
> Therefore, pls respond preferably *on this list* if you're interested
> in being involved, no matter how insignificantly, e.g.
> 
> - you want congestion visibility for other stuff you're doing
>    (but don't intend to work on it itself)
> - reviewing docs,
> - alternative way to achieve congestion exposure
> - participate in mailing list discussion,
> - co-authoring docs
> - design ways to do incremental deployment
> - using code for other stuff you're doing
> - thinking up new uses for the protocol
> - breaking it
> - analysing benefits/costs
> - implement protocol
> - implement a demo
> - running or participating in trials
> - standing on the sidelines booing or clapping
> - whatever
> 
> Perceived problem:
> Most people want to work on something finite like a new cool
> non-TCP-friendly congestion control. Less people want to go into an
> pseudo-infinite loop fixing IP to allow other cool stuff to happen.
> If you want something like re-ECN to be there, but don't have the
> bandwidth to work on it, that's cool too - please say this - it's
> still palpable support. And you will be likely to have review
> comments related to how you want to use it.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> ________________________________________________________________
> Bob Briscoe,               Networks Research Centre, BT Research
> 
> _______________________________________________
> re-ECN mailing list
> re-ECN@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/re-ecn