Re: [re-ECN] FW: ConEx BoF announcement text
John Leslie <john@jlc.net> Wed, 21 October 2009 16:37 UTC
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Subject: Re: [re-ECN] FW: ConEx BoF announcement text
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toby.moncaster@bt.com <toby.moncaster@bt.com> wrote: > > I think I would rather say something slightly different about TCP. > How about making the whole: > > " The Internet is, in essence, about pooling resources. The ability to > share capacity has been paramount to its success and has traditionally > relied on the voluntary use of TCP congestion control. However, TCP > may not be the most suitable algorithm for applications such as > peer-to-peer or streaming video that break some of its fundamental > design assumptions. Yes! > Such applications are able to cause enough congestion over time to > severely impair the quality of experience of other users. True, but not quite right. Perhaps: " " Such applications need to be a bit more aggressive than TCP under " some circumstances even if they are less aggressive on average. ISPs " are unable to tell whether such applications are, on average, more " or less aggressive than standard TCP congestion-control. > This has led some ISPs to deploy ad-hoc solutions such as volume > accounting, rate policing or deep packet inspection in an attempt to > distribute capacity differently. Yes. > The consequences of such practices are increasing calls for government > regulation and stifling innovation at the transport and application > layer (see for example, the problem statement I-D (ref below) and > RFC5594)." The reader stumbles a bit over this. Perhaps: " " Since such practices cannot distinguish whether the policing actually " matches the problem, they tend to stifle innovation at the transport " and application layers. Also, such practices often appear to be aimed " at stifling competitors to those ISPs, leading to increasing calls for " government regulation. -- John Leslie <john@jlc.net>
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