Re: [re-ECN] preliminary draft of problem statement- authors wanted
Mirja Kuehlewind <mirja.kuehlewind@ikr.uni-stuttgart.de> Tue, 22 September 2009 12:47 UTC
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Subject: Re: [re-ECN] preliminary draft of problem statement- authors wanted
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Regarding the problem statement, I think it should not only focus on TCP. Often UDP traffic is the problem with "heavy usage". Re-ECN is focusing mainly (so far) on TCP but congestion exposure in general is not protocol dependent. Having a system which requires congestion information for rate limiting there needs to be some (negative) impact on flows which not reveal this information (as proposed with the Re-ECN framework). Then talking about trust I don't know if it is okay to just talk about "users want to cheat the system". I think the point is that some applications can gain benefit by not being TCP-fair without any disadvantages. So there needs to be a incentive to play fair. (When you are using TCP you might have less packet loss. When you are download something it might be more important to be as fast as possible.) Gone wait for more input by now:-) Mirja On Friday 18 September 2009 11:57:34 toby.moncaster@bt.com wrote: > <<draft-moncaster-congestion-exposure-problem-00.txt>> Hi All, > > Here is a very preliminary version of a Problem Statement for Congestion > Exposure. It is mainly in note form and needs MAJOR bashing. I am hoping by > posting it in this early form to persuade a few more people to volunteer as > co-authors with me... > > We need to have this in a reasonable shape by mid-October in order to make > the initial submission deadline (which is scarily close - only 4 weeks and > 4 days away). > > Absolutely everything in the document is fair game for change including > title, draft name, table of content, content, ... > > Toby > ___________________________________________________________________ > Toby Moncaster, <toby.moncaster@bt.com> Networks Research Centre, BT > B54/70 Adastral Park, Ipswich, IP53RE, UK. +44 7918 901170 -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Dipl.-Ing. Mirja Kühlewind Institute of Communication Networks and Computer Engineering (IKR) University of Stuttgart, Germany Pfaffenwaldring 47, D-70569 Stuttgart web: www.ikr.uni-stuttgart.de email: mirja.kuehlewind@ikr.uni-stuttgart.de tel: +49(0)711/685-67973 -------------------------------------------------------------------
- [re-ECN] preliminary draft of problem statement- … toby.moncaster
- Re: [re-ECN] preliminary draft of problem stateme… Woundy, Richard
- Re: [re-ECN] preliminary draft of problem stateme… toby.moncaster
- Re: [re-ECN] preliminary draft of problem stateme… João Taveira Araújo
- Re: [re-ECN] preliminary draft of problem stateme… toby.moncaster
- Re: [re-ECN] preliminary draft of problem stateme… Mirja Kuehlewind
- Re: [re-ECN] preliminary draft of problem stateme… toby.moncaster
- Re: [re-ECN] preliminary draft of problem stateme… toby.moncaster
- Re: [re-ECN] preliminary draft of problem stateme… Michael Menth
- Re: [re-ECN] preliminary draft of problem stateme… toby.moncaster
- Re: [re-ECN] preliminary draft of problem stateme… Mirja Kuehlewind
- Re: [re-ECN] preliminary draft of problem stateme… toby.moncaster
- Re: [re-ECN] preliminary draft of problem stateme… toby.moncaster
- Re: [re-ECN] preliminary draft of problem stateme… Mirja Kuehlewind
- Re: [re-ECN] preliminary draft of problem stateme… Woundy, Richard
- Re: [re-ECN] preliminary draft of problem stateme… Michael Menth
- Re: [re-ECN] preliminary draft of problem stateme… toby.moncaster
- Re: [re-ECN] preliminary draft of problem stateme… Matthew Ford
- Re: [re-ECN] preliminary draft of problem stateme… toby.moncaster
- Re: [re-ECN] preliminary draft of problem stateme… toby.moncaster
- Re: [re-ECN] preliminary draft of problem stateme… Woundy, Richard
- Re: [re-ECN] preliminary draft of problem stateme… toby.moncaster
- Re: [re-ECN] preliminary draft of problem stateme… Tom Taylor
- Re: [re-ECN] preliminary draft of problem stateme… Mirja Kuehlewind
- Re: [re-ECN] preliminary draft of problem stateme… toby.moncaster
- Re: [re-ECN] preliminary draft of problem stateme… Bob Briscoe
- Re: [re-ECN] preliminary draft of problem stateme… Bob Briscoe
- Re: [re-ECN] preliminary draft of problem stateme… Ingemar Johansson S
- Re: [re-ECN] preliminary draft of problem stateme… toby.moncaster
- Re: [re-ECN] preliminary draft of problem stateme… Michael Menth
- Re: [re-ECN] preliminary draft of problem stateme… philip.eardley