Re: [re-ECN] Acronym for BoF / w-g?
Matthew Ford <ford@isoc.org> Mon, 28 September 2009 18:50 UTC
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Subject: Re: [re-ECN] Acronym for BoF / w-g?
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On 28/09/2009 19:32, Bob Briscoe wrote: > Can someone suggest a way to decide between the ideas proposed so far > below, rather than just going round and round on the list? Pick one ;) > Expect - EXPosing CongesTion I like this one - it's not ludicrously contrived, and it's germane to the work (as in, you can tell how much congestion to ... expect) > If we're voting, I vote for CEX (with a soft C of course). Reminds me of the BT Security Evaluation and Certification Scheme (BTSECS) ... *shudder* Mat > > > Bob > > >> Subject: RE: [re-ECN] Name for BoF? >> Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 11:01:43 +0100 >> From: <toby.moncaster@bt.com> >> To: <toby.moncaster@bt.com>om>, <rbriscoe@jungle.bt.co.uk>uk>, >> <re-ecn@ietf.org> >> Cc: <ingemar.s.johansson@ericsson.com> >> >> 6 more suggestions: >> >> Connexion - CONgestioN EXposure InformatiON >> Context - CONgestion EXposed Truthfully >> Convex - CONgestion Voluntarily EXposed >> Counted - COngestion {UNiversally Truthfully} ExposeD >> Exact - EXposing All CongesTion >> Expect - EXPosing CongesTion >> >> Of these I think I prefer exact, counted and context as the words >> convey something of what we mean. >> >> Toby >> >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: re-ecn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:re-ecn-bounces@ietf.org] On >> > Behalf Of toby.moncaster@bt.com >> > Sent: 08 September 2009 09:20 >> > To: Briscoe,RJ,Bob,XVR9 BRISCORJ R; re-ecn@ietf.org >> > Cc: ingemar.s.johansson@ericsson.com >> > Subject: Re: [re-ECN] Name for BoF? >> > >> > If you want to go for something catchy I had been thinking on the lines >> > of: >> > >> > ExCeTra (pronounced etc.) - EXposing Congestion TRAnsparently >> > >> > I am exactly split between Congestion Transparency and Congestion >> > Exposure. Congestion Visibility is weak... >> > >> > Toby >> > >> > PS - glad we got something out in time for the deadline. Let's hope it >> > proves suitable to get us to the starting gate in Hiroshima... >> > >> > > -----Original Message----- >> > > From: re-ecn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:re-ecn-bounces@ietf.org] On >> > > Behalf Of Bob Briscoe >> > > Sent: 08 September 2009 09:03 >> > > To: re-ECN unIETF list >> > > Cc: Ingemar Johansson S >> > > Subject: Re: [re-ECN] Name for BoF? >> > > >> > > Folks, >> > > >> > > More views welcome? >> > > >> > > Summary of 'votes' so far... >> > > >> > > At 00:08 08/09/2009, João Taveira Araújo wrote: >> > > >Bob Briscoe wrote: >> > > >>Folks, >> > > >> >> > > >>One important issue I never raised - the name. >> > > >> >> > > >>Congestion Exposure >> > > >>Congestion Visibility >> > > >>Congestion Transparency >> > > >> > > Congestion Exposure seems to get everyone's approval >> > > >> > > >> > > >>And a short form: >> > > >>CEX? >> > > >>re-ECN? >> > > >> > > Everyone agrees on what it shouldn't be: Not re-ECN >> > > Less agreement on a replacement: >> > > >> > > CEX >> > > ConEx >> > > re-con >> > > Also, one vote for "Wait until later." >> > > >> > > >> > > I'm not so keen on including "Con" for obvious >> > > reasons :) Choosing something like that can come back and bite you. >> > > It also sounds somehow as much like config as congestion. >> > > >> > > Some time ago, Toby came up with a clever one: >> > > C-IT (pron. "See it") for Congestion Information >> > Transparency. >> > > not so useful if we're not calling it transparency tho. >> > > >> > > Hey, I've just had a thought, the flag (or >> > > codepoint) for rest-of-path congestion could be >> > > called CEX (Congestion Expected), rather >> > > ambiguous with ECN's "Congestion Experienced (CE)" tho. >> > > >> > > >> > > Bob >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > ________________________________________________________________ >> > > Bob Briscoe, Networks Research Centre, BT Research >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > re-ECN mailing list >> > > re-ECN@ietf.org >> > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/re-ecn >> > _______________________________________________ >> > re-ECN mailing list >> > re-ECN@ietf.org >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/re-ecn > > ________________________________________________________________ > Bob Briscoe, BT Innovate & Design > _______________________________________________ > re-ECN mailing list > re-ECN@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/re-ecn
- [re-ECN] Acronym for BoF / w-g? Bob Briscoe
- Re: [re-ECN] Acronym for BoF / w-g? Matthew Ford
- Re: [re-ECN] Acronym for BoF / w-g? Scott Brim
- Re: [re-ECN] Acronym for BoF / w-g? Kwok Ho Chan
- Re: [re-ECN] Acronym for BoF / w-g? Fred Baker
- Re: [re-ECN] Acronym for BoF / w-g? Bob Briscoe
- Re: [re-ECN] Acronym for BoF / w-g? Bob Briscoe
- Re: [re-ECN] Acronym for BoF / w-g? Fred Baker
- Re: [re-ECN] Acronym for BoF / w-g? Bob Briscoe
- Re: [re-ECN] Acronym for BoF / w-g? Fred Baker
- Re: [re-ECN] Acronym for BoF / w-g? Richard Bennett
- Re: [re-ECN] Acronym for BoF / w-g? Fred Baker
- [re-ECN] Congestion is relative (was: Re: Acronym… Bob Briscoe
- Re: [re-ECN] Acronym for BoF / w-g? ECE Michael Menth
- Re: [re-ECN] Acronym for BoF / w-g? DCP Michael Menth
- Re: [re-ECN] Acronym for BoF / w-g? toby.moncaster
- Re: [re-ECN] Acronym for BoF / w-g? DCP toby.moncaster
- Re: [re-ECN] Acronym for BoF / w-g? DCP toby.moncaster
- Re: [re-ECN] Acronym for BoF / w-g? toby.moncaster
- Re: [re-ECN] Acronym for BoF / w-g? DCP Tina TSOU
- Re: [re-ECN] Acronym for BoF / w-g? Lars Eggert
- Re: [re-ECN] Acronym for BoF / w-g? toby.moncaster
- [re-ECN] Draft Agenda toby.moncaster
- Re: [re-ECN] Acronym for BoF / w-g? DCE Michael Menth
- Re: [re-ECN] Draft Agenda Leslie Daigle
- Re: [re-ECN] Draft Agenda toby.moncaster
- Re: [re-ECN] Draft Agenda Mirja Kuehlewind
- Re: [re-ECN] Draft Agenda toby.moncaster
- Re: [re-ECN] Draft Agenda Woundy, Richard
- Re: [re-ECN] Draft Agenda Leslie Daigle
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- Re: [re-ECN] Draft Agenda Woundy, Richard
- Re: [re-ECN] Draft Agenda Woundy, Richard
- Re: [re-ECN] Draft Agenda alan.p.smith
- Re: [re-ECN] Draft Agenda Lars Eggert
- Re: [re-ECN] Draft Agenda Woundy, Richard
- Re: [re-ECN] Draft Agenda Matt Mathis