Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion Exposurecommunity?
"Woundy, Richard" <Richard_Woundy@cable.comcast.com> Wed, 02 September 2009 18:43 UTC
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Subject: Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion Exposurecommunity?
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Bob, I am definitely interested in being involved in the re-ECN efforts, including co-authoring/reviewing documents, participating in the mailing list discussions, figuring out applications for the protocol (and the concept of 'congestion transparency', figuring out costs / benefits for service providers and other stakeholders, and figuring out service provider deployment considerations. Plus you get "standing on the sidelines booing or clapping" as a free bonus. :) -- Rich -----Original Message----- From: re-ecn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:re-ecn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Bob Briscoe Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 12:34 PM To: re-ecn@ietf.org Subject: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion Exposure community? Folks, I'd like to try to arrange a Congestion Exposure (re-ECN) BoF in Nov at the Hiroshima IETF. If so, we have to notify the area directors v soon - by 24:00 UTC Mon 7 Sep 09. #1 gating function for Area Directors: activity on an ietf list. Therefore, pls respond preferably *on this list* if you're interested in being involved, no matter how insignificantly, e.g. - you want congestion visibility for other stuff you're doing (but don't intend to work on it itself) - reviewing docs, - alternative way to achieve congestion exposure - participate in mailing list discussion, - co-authoring docs - design ways to do incremental deployment - using code for other stuff you're doing - thinking up new uses for the protocol - breaking it - analysing benefits/costs - implement protocol - implement a demo - running or participating in trials - standing on the sidelines booing or clapping - whatever Perceived problem: Most people want to work on something finite like a new cool non-TCP-friendly congestion control. Less people want to go into an pseudo-infinite loop fixing IP to allow other cool stuff to happen. If you want something like re-ECN to be there, but don't have the bandwidth to work on it, that's cool too - please say this - it's still palpable support. And you will be likely to have review comments related to how you want to use it. Cheers Bob ________________________________________________________________ Bob Briscoe, Networks Research Centre, BT Research _______________________________________________ re-ECN mailing list re-ECN@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/re-ecn _______________________________________________ re-ECN mailing list re-ECN@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/re-ecn
- [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion Exp… Bob Briscoe
- Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion… Michael Welzl
- Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion… Soo-Hyun Choi
- Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion… Agarwal, Anil
- Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion… Woundy, Richard
- Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion… Michael Menth
- [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion Exp… Costas Courcoubetis
- Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion… Mirja Kuehlewind
- Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion… Bob Briscoe
- Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion… Howard Green
- Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion… Bruce Davie
- Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion… marcelo bagnulo braun
- Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion… Tom Taylor
- Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion… Rolf Winter
- Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion… Steven J Bauer
- Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion… Kwok Ho Chan
- Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion… Richard Bennett
- Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion… Don Bowman
- Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion… Steven Blake
- Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion… Scott Brim
- Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion… Matt Mathis
- Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion… Janardhan Iyengar
- Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion… Leslie Daigle
- Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion… Varghese Reji-A16389
- Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion… Mayutan A.
- Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion… ken carlberg
- Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion… Bob Briscoe
- Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion… Bob Briscoe
- Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion… PAPADIMITRIOU Dimitri
- Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion… João Taveira Araújo
- Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion… marcelo bagnulo braun
- Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion… Ford, Alan
- Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion… Bob Briscoe
- Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion… Anna Charny (acharny)
- Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion… João Taveira Araújo
- Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion… marcelo bagnulo braun
- Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion… Bob Briscoe
- Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion… João Taveira Araújo
- Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion… Bob Briscoe
- Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion… Ingemar Johansson S
- Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion… Barbara van Schewick
- Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion… alan.p.smith
- Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion… Piers O'Hanlon
- Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion… Zaheduzzaman Sarker
- Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion… Dragana Damjanovic
- Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion… Joe Babiarz
- Re: [re-ECN] Fwd: Pls respond: Do we have a Conge… Aaron Falk
- Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion… Bob Briscoe
- Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion… Bob Briscoe
- Re: [re-ECN] Fwd: Pls respond: Do we have a Conge… Bob Briscoe
- Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion… Lixia Zhang
- Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion… Livingood, Jason
- Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion… Piers O'Hanlon
- Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion… Bob Briscoe