Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion Exposure community?

[Bob Briscoe <[e-mail]>]

Mirja, Michael, Rich, Anil, Soo-Hyun, Costas,

Thanks for letting us know what you're planning.

I'm hoping to get a draft BoF proposal out later 
today. It will be based on the "Pls bash" mail I 
sent out on Wed 2 Sep. So any comments on that, 
let me know now. We have to submit it Monday 
night (and I'm flying Monday pm/evening).

I've had a note from Jari Arkko (one of the 
Internet Area Directors) agreeing that this 
crosses Int Area & Transport Area, but he says 
he's happy for the Transport Area to take a lead.


Bob

At 09:29 03/09/2009, Mirja Kuehlewind wrote:
>Hi Bob,
>
>I am are definitely interested in being involved. As you know I am already
>working on investigating re-ECN and also on ideas how to use the re-ECN
>information or other Congestion Exposure mechanisms.
>
>Regards,
>Mirja
>
>
>On Wednesday 02 September 2009 18:33:36 Bob Briscoe wrote:
> > Folks,
> >
> > I'd like to try to arrange a Congestion Exposure (re-ECN) BoF in Nov
> > at the Hiroshima IETF. If so, we have to notify the area directors v
> > soon - by 24:00 UTC Mon 7 Sep 09. #1 gating function for Area
> > Directors: activity on an ietf list.
> >
> > Therefore, pls respond preferably *on this list* if you're interested
> > in being involved, no matter how insignificantly, e.g.
> >
> > - you want congestion visibility for other stuff you're doing
> >    (but don't intend to work on it itself)
> > - reviewing docs,
> > - alternative way to achieve congestion exposure
> > - participate in mailing list discussion,
> > - co-authoring docs
> > - design ways to do incremental deployment
> > - using code for other stuff you're doing
> > - thinking up new uses for the protocol
> > - breaking it
> > - analysing benefits/costs
> > - implement protocol
> > - implement a demo
> > - running or participating in trials
> > - standing on the sidelines booing or clapping
> > - whatever
> >
> > Perceived problem:
> > Most people want to work on something finite like a new cool
> > non-TCP-friendly congestion control. Less people want to go into an
> > pseudo-infinite loop fixing IP to allow other cool stuff to happen.
> > If you want something like re-ECN to be there, but don't have the
> > bandwidth to work on it, that's cool too - please say this - it's
> > still palpable support. And you will be likely to have review
> > comments related to how you want to use it.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> >
> > Bob
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________________________________
> > Bob Briscoe,               Networks Research Centre, BT Research
> >
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>
>
>
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Bob Briscoe,               Networks Research Centre, BT Research