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Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion Exposure community?

"Joe Babiarz" <jbabiarz@istop.com> Tue, 08 September 2009 16:26 UTC

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Bob,

I'm definitely in support of the re-ECN work getting started at the IETF.
Having a BoF to discuss the goals and see if there is some feasible path
forward is a good idea.

 

Regards, Joe.

 

Jozef Babiarz

3inova Networks Inc.

email: jbabiarz@istop.com

 





Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 17:33:36 +0100

To: re-ecn@ietf.org

From: Bob Briscoe <rbriscoe@jungle.bt.co.uk>

Subject: Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion Exposure community?

 

Folks,

 

I'd like to try to arrange a Congestion Exposure (re-ECN) BoF in Nov at the
Hiroshima IETF. If so, we have to notify the area directors v soon - by
24:00 UTC Mon 7 Sep 09. #1 gating function for Area Directors: activity on
an ietf list.

 

Therefore, pls respond preferably *on this list* if you're interested in
being involved, no matter how insignificantly, e.g.

 

- you want congestion visibility for other stuff you're doing

 (but don't intend to work on it itself)

- reviewing docs,

- alternative way to achieve congestion exposure

- participate in mailing list discussion,

- co-authoring docs

- design ways to do incremental deployment

- using code for other stuff you're doing

- thinking up new uses for the protocol

- breaking it

- analysing benefits/costs

- implement protocol

- implement a demo

- running or participating in trials

- standing on the sidelines booing or clapping

- whatever

 

Perceived problem:

Most people want to work on something finite like a new cool
non-TCP-friendly congestion control. Less people want to go into an
pseudo-infinite loop fixing IP to allow other cool stuff to happen. If you
want something like re-ECN to be there, but don't have the bandwidth to work
on it, that's cool too - please say this - it's still palpable support. And
you will be likely to have review comments related to how you want to use
it.

 

Cheers

 

 

Bob

 

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Bob Briscoe,               Networks Research Centre, BT Research

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