Re: [re-ECN] Draft Agenda

["Woundy, Richard" <[e-mail]>]

Thanks Lars, I see your point about vendor demos.
 
>I don't think this applies to demos done in the scope of a WG or BOF 
 
Actually, folks in my group have coordinated several dual stack lite demos at IETF meetings; dual stack lite is being standardized in the Softwires working group. They definitely had to coordinate with the IETF meeting network engineers. That demo didn't generate much extra traffic, but it did require extra devices in the IETF meeting network.
 
Their concerns would seem to be proportional to the volume of traffic generated and/or the additional complexity in the IETF meeting network.
 
Again, I will defer to you and the BoF chairs.
 
-- Rich

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From: Lars Eggert [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Sun 10/11/2009 5:28 AM
To: Woundy, Richard
Cc: [e-mail]; [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [re-ECN] Draft Agenda



Hi,

I believe this text deals with demos that the organization *hosting* 
an IETF meeting might want to show on-site. For example, if Nokia were 
to host an IETF and we wanted to show some new phones, the secretariat 
- or the IESG? - would need to OK this. We don't want the hosts to do 
too much advertising at the venue.

I don't think this applies to demos done in the scope of a WG or BOF - 
there, it is up to the chairs to decide what is appropriate IMO.

On 2009-10-8, at 22:09, Woundy, Richard wrote:
> I looked for some additional information about IETF meeting
> demonstrations, and found this paragraph in "Hosting an IETF 
> Meeting" at
> http://www.ietf.org/meeting/hosting-an-ietf.html:
>
> Demonstrations
>
> All on-site demonstrations must be approved by the Secretariat. The
> determination will be based entirely on the subject matter and its
> applicability to the IETF. The opinion of the IESG may be solicited as
> well. Approval must be also given by local host, if, the individual
> giving the demo asks to use Terminal Room resources (i.e., equipment,
> power and/or space). The local host may decline to accommodate 
> requests
> to support demonstrations on-site, especially if there is no physical
> room, facilities or personnel available to support the effort.

Lars