Re: [re-ECN] DRAFT charter
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Hi Leslie, Generally that looks like a pretty good charter. Just a couple of issues: We should make it clearer that the suggested use cases are just that - suggestions. I'm not quite sure about having an applicability statement, and if we do I don't think we can have it as the first milestone unless you actually mean it to be mainly a "constraints" document. There is definite pressure from some people to cover transports other than TCP. One suggestion might be to specify a minimal behaviour needed in order to make this work in any transport (e.g. nature, granularity and timeliness of feedback information and how to convert this into feed-forward CONEX info). Final thing, should we consider having a "vision" document for how this might impact things architecturally in the long term? Toby > -----Original Message----- > From: re-ecn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:re-ecn-bounces@ietf.org] On > Behalf Of Leslie Daigle > Sent: 05 November 2009 05:58 > To: re-ecn@ietf.org > Subject: [re-ECN] DRAFT charter > > Hi, > > Here's a draft charter for a potential WG in this area. Note that we > have to be pretty successful in working our way through the BoF agenda > to even get to a point where it is sensible to discuss a charter, but > it > seemed reasonable to have a draft in hand. > > > > > > CONEX Charter > > The purpose of the CONEX working group is to develop a mechanism to > allow senders to inform the network of the level of congestion they > expect their packets to encounter. This information is currently only > visible at the transport layer. With the output of CONEX, it will be > possible to provide sufficient information in each IP datagram so that > any node in the network can see the expected rest-of-path congestion. > Once any node can see the impact it causes (and suffers) by sending or > forwarding packets, it will be possible to hold senders and whole > networks accountable for the congestion they cause downstream. Tools > that exploit the CONEX output could be used for mitigating distributed > denial of service (DDoS); simplifying differentiation of quality of > service (QoS); policing compliance to congestion control; and so on. > > > Output of the CONEX WG will include: > > o An applicability statement -- the specific cases in which CONEX is > useful, especially in different network conditions, incremental > deployment considerations, etc. > > o Specification of IP (v4 and v6) packet structure to encapsulate > congestion exposure information (header bits, interpretation) > > o Use cases -- possible uses of the CONEX information to reduce > congestion and/or increase accountability for it > > o Specification of necessary CONEX features in TCP, for example to > carry > congestion information from receiver to sender > > o Analysis of security threats from falsifying or suppressing CONEX > information > > Future work may include specifications to implement one or more use > cases. > > > > Milestones [Hopelessly ambitious for now -- to be hammered out when the > output is settled] > > > Feb 2010 Draft applicability statement (-00) > > Mar 2010 Evaluation of candidate protocol approaches > > Apr 2010 Determination of protocol approach > > May 2010 Draft use cases (-00) > > Jun 2010 Revised applicability statement > > Jun 2010 Draft CONEX IPv4 specification (-00) > > Jun 2010 Draft CONEX IPv6 specification (-00) > > Dec 2010 Revised CONEX IPv4 specification > > Dec 2010 Revised CONEX IPv6 specification > > Jan 2011 Revised use cases > > > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > "Reality: > Yours to discover." > -- ThinkingCat > Leslie Daigle > leslie@thinkingcat.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > re-ECN mailing list > re-ECN@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/re-ecn
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