Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion Exposure community?

"Zaheduzzaman Sarker" <zaheduzzaman.sarker@ericsson.com> Tue, 08 September 2009 12:29 UTC

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Hi,

I am also interested in this work especially in transport layer aspects. My involvement will include reviewing docs, thinking up new use and perhaps running some simulations. 

Thanks!!

BR

Zahed


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-----Original Message-----
From: re-ecn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:re-ecn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Bob Briscoe
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 6:34 PM
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Subject: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion Exposure community?

Folks,

I'd like to try to arrange a Congestion Exposure (re-ECN) BoF in Nov at the Hiroshima IETF. If so, we have to notify the area directors v soon - by 24:00 UTC Mon 7 Sep 09. #1 gating function for Area
Directors: activity on an ietf list.

Therefore, pls respond preferably *on this list* if you're interested in being involved, no matter how insignificantly, e.g.

- you want congestion visibility for other stuff you're doing
   (but don't intend to work on it itself)
- reviewing docs,
- alternative way to achieve congestion exposure
- participate in mailing list discussion,
- co-authoring docs
- design ways to do incremental deployment
- using code for other stuff you're doing
- thinking up new uses for the protocol
- breaking it
- analysing benefits/costs
- implement protocol
- implement a demo
- running or participating in trials
- standing on the sidelines booing or clapping
- whatever

Perceived problem:
Most people want to work on something finite like a new cool non-TCP-friendly congestion control. Less people want to go into an pseudo-infinite loop fixing IP to allow other cool stuff to happen. 
If you want something like re-ECN to be there, but don't have the bandwidth to work on it, that's cool too - please say this - it's still palpable support. And you will be likely to have review comments related to how you want to use it.

Cheers


Bob


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