Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion Exposure community?

["Livingood, Jason" <[e-mail]>]

Been on vacation so late in responding to this thread, though I see others
have done so (incl. my colleague Rich Woundy).  This seems like an
interesting area of work and, barring obvious conflicts with other BoFs and
WGs at IETF 76, I¹m interested in attending and participating on some level.

Regards
Jason


>>> >Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 17:33:36 +0100
>>> >To: [e-mail]
>>> >From: Bob Briscoe <[e-mail]>
>>> >Subject: Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion Exposure community?
>>> >
>>> >Folks,
>>> >
>>> >I'd like to try to arrange a Congestion Exposure (re-ECN) BoF in Nov
>>> >at the Hiroshima IETF. If so, we have to notify the area directors v
>>> >soon - by 24:00 UTC Mon 7 Sep 09. #1 gating function for Area
>>> >Directors: activity on an ietf list.
>>> >
>>> >Therefore, pls respond preferably *on this list* if you're
>>> >interested in being involved, no matter how insignificantly, e.g.
>>> >
>>> >- you want congestion visibility for other stuff you're doing
>>> >   (but don't intend to work on it itself)
>>> >- reviewing docs,
>>> >- alternative way to achieve congestion exposure
>>> >- participate in mailing list discussion,
>>> >- co-authoring docs
>>> >- design ways to do incremental deployment
>>> >- using code for other stuff you're doing
>>> >- thinking up new uses for the protocol
>>> >- breaking it
>>> >- analysing benefits/costs
>>> >- implement protocol
>>> >- implement a demo
>>> >- running or participating in trials
>>> >- standing on the sidelines booing or clapping
>>> >- whatever
>>> >
>>> >Perceived problem:
>>> >Most people want to work on something finite like a new cool
>>> >non-TCP-friendly congestion control. Less people want to go into an
>>> >pseudo-infinite loop fixing IP to allow other cool stuff to happen.
>>> >If you want something like re-ECN to be there, but don't have the
>>> >bandwidth to work on it, that's cool too - please say this - it's
>>> >still palpable support. And you will be likely to have review
>>> >comments related to how you want to use it.
>>> >
>>> >Cheers
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Bob