Re: [re-ECN] Congestion Transparency (re-ECN) ad hoc BoF @Stockholm IETF

"Eddy, Wesley M. (GRC-MS00)[Verizon]" <wesley.m.eddy@nasa.gov> Wed, 22 July 2009 22:06 UTC

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From: "Eddy, Wesley M. (GRC-MS00)[Verizon]" <wesley.m.eddy@nasa.gov>
To: Bob Briscoe <rbriscoe@jungle.bt.co.uk>, re-ECN unIETF list <re-ecn@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [re-ECN] Congestion Transparency (re-ECN) ad hoc BoF @Stockholm IETF
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How about an agenda item to clearly define "requirements" versus
"properties that would be nice".  This would, I think, be useful
in evaluating seriousness of some of the limitations listed in
draft-briscoe-tsvwg-re-ecn-tcp-motivation-00
as well as comparing alternatives in the deployment space and
concisely codify assumptions about other issues like the ECN nonce.

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Wes Eddy
Network & Systems Architect
Verizon FNS / NASA GRC
Office: (216) 433-6682
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>-----Original Message-----
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>Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 2:01 PM
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>Subject: [re-ECN] Congestion Transparency (re-ECN) ad hoc BoF @Stockholm
>IETF
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>Folks,
>
>I'd like to get together people who might be interested in helping
>organise a BoF on Congestion Transparency (re-ECN) for a future IETF.
>
>15:00 - 16:30 CET Thu 30 Jul Rm 501 @ Stockholm IETF conference venue
>
>Pls give ideas for agenda items (I will too).
>
>This isn't intended to be a general show-and-tell - it's mainly for
>people interested in helping/reviewing/discussing plans for a BoF to
>form an IETF working group. This should complement the design team
>work going on in ICCRG on a new capacity sharing architecture for the
>Internet.
><http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/irtf/trac/wiki/CapacitySharingArch>
>
>For those who won't be able to attend (and those who will), this list
>would also be a fine place to start discussions.
>
>The main idea is to get some protocol specification activity going
>around re-ECN. Probably initially experimental track. So we can make
>some practical progress. But there is also room for writing docs
>about uses of congestion transparency and so on.
>
>My colleague Alan Smith has (finally) got the green light from our
>employers to open source the Linux kernel code he has written. And
>there are two implementations in ns2 that I know of, with another two
>being planned. So we ought to be making sure the spec becomes truly
>common property and starts to evolve to commonly agreed requirements.
>
>That means we have to be open to any changes, including using
>better/different fields in protocol headers, choosing a different
>name, and so on. But the most important thing is to make some
>practical progress.
>
>
>
>Bob
>
>
>________________________________________________________________
>Bob Briscoe,               Networks Research Centre, BT Research
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