Re: [re-ECN] New Problem Statement Document

Alissa Cooper <acooper@cdt.org> Wed, 28 October 2009 17:02 UTC

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We revised it on Monday:

> A new version of I-D, draft-tschofenig-conex-ps-01.txt has been  
> successfuly submitted by Hannes Tschofenig and posted to the IETF  
> repository.
>
> Filename:	 draft-tschofenig-conex-ps
> Revision:	 01
> Title:		 Congestion Exposure Problem Statement
> Creation_date:	 2009-10-26
> WG ID:		 Independent Submission
> Number_of_pages: 18
>
> Abstract:
> The increasingly ubiquitous availability of broadband, together with
> flat-rate pricing, have made the use of new kinds of peer-to-peer
> applications increasingly common.  From the perspective of the
> Internet's evolution and its contributions to end user value, this is
> very exciting.  However, the uptick in peer-to-peer application usage
> has also contributed to the rise of "high-consuming users" who take
> their flat-rate contracts to the limit by continuously file-sharing
> to the maximum extent possible.  Network operators have responded to
> this phenomenon in a number of different fashions.
>
> This document discusses the problems created for operators by high-
> consuming users and illustrates a number of techniques operators are
> currently using to cope with high bandwidth usage.
>
>
>
> The IETF Secretariat.


Cheers,
Alissa

On Oct 21, 2009, at 10:37 AM, <philip.eardley@bt.com> <philip.eardley@bt.com 
 > wrote:

> Hannes & Alissa,
>
> Thanks for your doc, I've added it to the wiki
> http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/tsv/trac/wiki/re-ECN
>
> Best wishes,
> phil
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: re-ecn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:re-ecn-bounces@ietf.org] On  
> Behalf
> Of Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
> Sent: 21 October 2009 08:21
> To: re-ecn@ietf.org
> Subject: [re-ECN] New Problem Statement Document
>
> Hi all,
>
> Toby asked for input regarding the problem statement document and here
> is our input. Alissa and I have tried to produce a short document, see
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-tschofenig-conex-ps-00, that aims to
> avoid going too much into the solution space.
>
> Our approach was the following:
>
> * capture what the problem is (i.e., high traffic consumption by a  
> very
> small number of users causes problems for operators)
> * briefly describe what is being done by operators today to deal with
> that problem
> * point to some other related ongoing activities in the IETF that the
> reader might want to be interested in.
> * conclude with an outlook of what is difficult to do with the tools
> available today
>
> Ciao
> Hannes
>
> PS: When working on the document I was wondering why a problem  
> statement
> document is actually needed at all given that most of proponents are
> only interested in a very specific solution. The case seems to be a  
> bit
> similar to LEDBAT.
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