Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion Exposure community?
Barbara van Schewick <schewick@stanford.edu> Mon, 07 September 2009 21:05 UTC
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Subject: Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion Exposure community?
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I'm very interested in this. I'm particularly interested in the business and policy implications of re-ECN. Barbara --- Barbara van Schewick Assistant Professor of Law and (by Courtesy) Electrical Engineering Director, Center for Internet and Society Stanford Law School Crown Quadrangle 559 Nathan Abbott Way Stanford, CA94305-8610 Phone: 650-723 8340 E-Mail: schewick@stanford.edu >Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 17:33:36 +0100 >To: re-ecn@ietf.org >From: Bob Briscoe <rbriscoe@jungle.bt.co.uk> >Subject: Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion Exposure community? > >Folks, > >I'd like to try to arrange a Congestion Exposure (re-ECN) BoF in Nov >at the Hiroshima IETF. If so, we have to notify the area directors v >soon - by 24:00 UTC Mon 7 Sep 09. #1 gating function for Area >Directors: activity on an ietf list. > >Therefore, pls respond preferably *on this list* if you're >interested in being involved, no matter how insignificantly, e.g. > >- you want congestion visibility for other stuff you're doing > (but don't intend to work on it itself) >- reviewing docs, >- alternative way to achieve congestion exposure >- participate in mailing list discussion, >- co-authoring docs >- design ways to do incremental deployment >- using code for other stuff you're doing >- thinking up new uses for the protocol >- breaking it >- analysing benefits/costs >- implement protocol >- implement a demo >- running or participating in trials >- standing on the sidelines booing or clapping >- whatever > >Perceived problem: >Most people want to work on something finite like a new cool >non-TCP-friendly congestion control. Less people want to go into an >pseudo-infinite loop fixing IP to allow other cool stuff to happen. >If you want something like re-ECN to be there, but don't have the >bandwidth to work on it, that's cool too - please say this - it's >still palpable support. And you will be likely to have review >comments related to how you want to use it. > >Cheers > > >Bob > >________________________________________________________________ >Bob Briscoe, Networks Research Centre, BT Research
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- Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion… Bob Briscoe
- Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion… PAPADIMITRIOU Dimitri
- Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion… João Taveira Araújo
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- Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion… Ford, Alan
- Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion… Bob Briscoe
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- Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion… marcelo bagnulo braun
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