Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion Exposure Community?

Markku Kojo <kojo@cs.helsinki.fi> Mon, 07 September 2009 17:22 UTC

Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 20:22:35 +0300 (EEST)
From: Markku Kojo <kojo@cs.helsinki.fi>
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Subject: Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion Exposure Community?
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Hi,

sorry for the late response... 

Yes, I'd like to see this to be discussed in a BoF at the Hiroshima IETF. 
This has a lot of potential, and getting it done properly is important. 

My level of involvement is still open as it's a bit hard to know 
right now how much cycles I may be able to invest in this in 
the future, if a wg gets created. Hope to be able to contribute 
anyway as my group is working on related issues.

Best regards,

/Markku



>Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 17:33:36 +0100
>To: re-ecn@ietf.org
>From: Bob Briscoe <rbriscoe@jungle.bt.co.uk>
>Subject: Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion Exposure community?
>
>Folks,
>
>I'd like to try to arrange a Congestion Exposure (re-ECN) BoF in Nov at the
>Hiroshima IETF. If so, we have to notify the area directors v soon - by 24:00
>UTC Mon 7 Sep 09. #1 gating function for Area Directors: activity on an ietf
>list.
>
>Therefore, pls respond preferably *on this list* if you're interested in being
>involved, no matter how insignificantly, e.g.
>
>- you want congestion visibility for other stuff you're doing
>   (but don't intend to work on it itself)
>- reviewing docs,
>- alternative way to achieve congestion exposure
>- participate in mailing list discussion,
>- co-authoring docs
>- design ways to do incremental deployment
>- using code for other stuff you're doing
>- thinking up new uses for the protocol
>- breaking it
>- analysing benefits/costs
>- implement protocol
>- implement a demo
>- running or participating in trials
>- standing on the sidelines booing or clapping
>- whatever
>
>Perceived problem:
>Most people want to work on something finite like a new cool non-TCP-friendly
>congestion control. Less people want to go into an pseudo-infinite loop fixing
>IP to allow other cool stuff to happen. If you want something like re-ECN to be
>there, but don't have the bandwidth to work on it, that's cool too - please say
>this - it's still palpable support. And you will be likely to have review
>comments related to how you want to use it.
>
>Cheers
>
>
>Bob
>
>________________________________________________________________
>Bob Briscoe,               Networks Research Centre, BT Research

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