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Re: [re-ECN] RE-ECN without ECN.

Fred Baker <fred@cisco.com> Mon, 05 October 2009 18:50 UTC

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On Oct 2, 2009, at 3:42 PM, Matt Mathis wrote:

>  My bet that it
> is a lot easier to add the duplicate detection to the ingress router,
> since the owner is motivated to do so.

is the presence of encrypted or tunneled data streams important here?

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