Re: [re-ECN] FW: ConEx BoF announcement text
Leslie Daigle <leslie@thinkingcat.com> Sat, 17 October 2009 03:02 UTC
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Subject: Re: [re-ECN] FW: ConEx BoF announcement text
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Hi, I've posted a description on the BoF wiki page: http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/tsv/trac/wiki/re-ECN I think I mostly followed the structural edits, but not the wording changes within sentences, because I felt there were important (if subtle) changes that I wasn't convinced about/would want further input from the list for. But -- it's a wiki. We can change the text, if there's need to do so! Thanks, Leslie. > > > Suggested edited version (slightly shorter and it moves references to > re-ECN further towards the end. Also tries to tighten up the text a bit): > > > > Congestion Exposure (ConEx) is a proposed new IETF activity that reveals > congestion along the forwarding path of the Internet. By revealing the > expected congestion in the IP header of every packet, congestion > exposure provides a new generic network capability. We believe such > information could be used for many purposes, including congestion > policing, accountability and inter-domain SLAs. It may also open new > approaches to QoS and traffic engineering. > > > > The Internet is, in essence, about pooling and sharing resources. This > has been paramount to its success and has traditionally been managed > through the voluntary use of TCP congestion control. However, TCP alone > is unable to prevent bandwidth intensive applications, such as > peer-to-peer or streaming video, from causing enough congestion to > severely limit the user-experience of many other end-hosts. This has > led ISPs to deploy ad-hoc solutions such as volume accounting, rate > policing and deep packet inspection in an attempt to distribute capacity > differently. Such practices are leading to calls for government > regulation as well as stifling innovation at the transport and > application layer (see for example, the problem statement I-D (ref > below) and RFC5594). > > > > We believe these problems stem from the lack of accountability for > causing congestion at the network layer. We propose a metric where all > IP packets carry information about the expected rest-of-path congestion, > so that any network node may estimate how much congestion it will cause > by forwarding traffic. This will allow network operators to count the > volume of congestion about to be caused as easily as the volume of bytes > in any aggregate of traffic. Once ISPs can see rest-of-path congestion, > they can actively discourage users from causing excessive congestion, > encourage other networks to control the congestion their customers > cause, and more meaningfully differentiate between the qualities of > services offered by potential connectivity partners. Meanwhile end-hosts > can be freed from rate restrictions so long as they control the overall > congestion they cause. > > > > The purpose of this BoF is to explore whether the IETF community agrees > this lack of congestion exposure is a problem and to gauge the support > for and viability of pursuing an IETF activity to define a basic > protocol to expose the expected rest-of-path congestion in the IP > header. Any such protocol should work with minimal changes to the > existing network; in particular it should work with unmodified routers. > There is already one existing proposal that builds on ECN to provide > rest-of-path congestion information in every IP header and other > proposals may come forward. > > > > If supported, an eventual WG would focus on developing such a protocol > as its main work item. Additional work items could include detailing > the motivations for congestion exposure, a threat analysis of the > protocol, providing feedback on experimental trials and describing > deployment considerations. Importantly, the proposed WG would encourage > experimentation but not deliberate on how congestion exposure should be > used: our concern would be how flexibly the resulting protocol can > support differing needs at run-time, rather than dictating a particular > usage at design time. > > > > > > *From:* re-ecn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:re-ecn-bounces@ietf.org] *On > Behalf Of *philip.eardley@bt.com > *Sent:* 16 October 2009 11:28 > *To:* re-ecn@ietf.org > *Subject:* [re-ECN] ConEx BoF announcement text > > > > Here’s a slightly revised version of the announcement text - thanks to > Joao and everyone who worked on it. > > > > The main change was to re-write the last 2 paras from the perspective of > the BoF. I also deleted the claim that the work should be > transport-agnostic, as I find ‘transport’ an ambiguous word & also think > the substantive point is already made by saying the congestion is > revealed in the IP header. > > > > Please send any further suggestions asap, so we can circulate to other > mailing lists later today > > > > Thanks > > Phil & Leslie > > > > --- > > > > Congestion Exposure (ConEx) is a proposed new IETF activity to enable > congestion to be exposed along the forwarding path of the Internet. By > revealing expected congestion in the IP header of every packet, > congestion exposure provides a generic network capability which allows > greater freedom over how capacity is shared. > > > > > An existing proposal, building on ECN to reveal "rest-of-path" > information into the IP header, has already demonstrated how congestion > exposure can give an incentive to control one's impact on the network > beside TCP congestion-control. We believe this “congestion exposure” > information may be used for many purposes, including congestion > policing, accountability and inter-domain SLAs. It may also open new > approaches to QoS and traffic engineering. > > > > The Internet is, in essence, about pooling resources. The ability to > share capacity has been paramount to its success and has traditionally > been managed through the voluntary use of TCP congestion control. > However, TCP alone is unable to prevent bandwidth intensive > applications, such as peer-to-peer or streaming video, from causing > enough congestion to severely limit the user-experience of many other > end-hosts. This has led ISPs to deploy ad-hoc solutions such as volume > accounting, rate policing and deep packet inspection in an attempt to > distribute capacity differently. The consequences of such practices are > increasingly leading to calls for government regulations and stifling > innovation at the transport and application layer (see for example, the > problem statement I-D (ref below) and RFC5594). > > > > We believe these problems stem from the lack of a network-layer system > for accountability -- among all parties -- for sending traffic which > causes congestion. We propose a metric where IP packets carry > information about the expected rest-of-path congestion, so that any > network node may estimate how much congestion it is likely to cause by > forwarding traffic. A network operator can then count the volume of > congestion about to be caused by an aggregate of traffic as easily as it > can count the volume of bytes entering its network today. Once ISPs can > see rest-of-path congestion, they can actively discourage users from > causing large volumes of congestion, discourage other networks from > allowing their users to cause congestion, and more meaningfully > differentiate between the qualities of services offered from potential > connectivity partners. Meanwhile end-hosts may be freed from rate > restrictions where their traffic causes little congestion. > > > > The purpose of the BoF is to explore the support for and viability of > pursuing an IETF activity to define a basic protocol to expose the > expected rest-of-path congestion in the IP header. Any such protocol > should work with minimal changes to the existing network, in particular > it should work with unmodified routers. > > > > If supported, an eventual WG would focus on the development of that > protocol as its main work item. Additional work items could include > detailing the motivations for congestion exposure, a threat analysis of > the subsequent protocol, providing feedback on experimental trials and > describing deployment considerations. Importantly, the proposed WG would > encourage experimentation but not deliberate on how congestion exposure > should be used: our concern would be how flexibly the resulting protocol > can support differing needs at run-time, rather than dictating a > particular usage at design time. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > re-ECN mailing list > re-ECN@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/re-ecn -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- "Reality: Yours to discover." -- ThinkingCat Leslie Daigle leslie@thinkingcat.com -------------------------------------------------------------------
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- Re: [re-ECN] FW: ConEx BoF announcement text Kwok Ho Chan
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- Re: [re-ECN] FW: ConEx BoF announcement text Leslie Daigle
- Re: [re-ECN] FW: ConEx BoF announcement text Bob Briscoe
- Re: [re-ECN] FW: ConEx BoF announcement text Fred Baker
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- Re: [re-ECN] FW: ConEx BoF announcement text Bob Briscoe
- Re: [re-ECN] FW: ConEx BoF announcement text Leslie Daigle
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- Re: [re-ECN] FW: ConEx BoF announcement text toby.moncaster
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