Re: [re-ECN] BoF Proposal for wider IETF

Looking at the recommended steps in
http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5434#section-2, here's my opinion of some
items our group should focus on.

>From step 4: "getting agreement on the problem statement". Toby
Moncaster has made some progress towards a draft already; we should be
assisting him and contributing text.

>From step 6 (note: after the BoF is approved): "identifying areas of
agreement and areas of disagreement". The most fundamental disagreement
(i.e. keeping flow-rate fairness) is probably captured in RFC 5290,
http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5290. Has anyone identified any candidate
protocols or approaches other than re-ECN?

>From step 7: "produce a proposed charter and iterate on it on the
mailing list". We might be able to start with the BoF proposal.

>From step 8: "decide what questions will be asked during the BOF
itself". This is somewhat different than the questions captured in the
FAQ that Bob and John Leslie worked on. The questions are really about
agreement with the charter, agreement with the problem statement, should
a WG be formed yet, etc. See
http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5434#section-4.

We don't have to be a slave to RFC 5434, but it does provide pretty
helpful advice.

-- Rich

-----Original Message-----
From: toby.moncaster@bt.com [mailto:toby.moncaster@bt.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 6:44 AM
To: Woundy, Richard; lars.eggert@nokia.com; rbriscoe@jungle.bt.co.uk
Cc: re-ecn@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [re-ECN] BoF Proposal for wider IETF

Just in case people are interested, it looks as though the IESG will
make their decisions on which BoFs to accept next Friday (25th).

By that time it would be nice to have started some of the preliminary
work that will need to be done if we do get approval... One of the key
things we need to think about is suitable people to chair the BoF. I
believe Rich has already expressed an interest and so we would need to
find A.N.Other...

Toby

> -----Original Message-----
> From: re-ecn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:re-ecn-bounces@ietf.org] On
> Behalf Of Woundy, Richard
> Sent: 10 September 2009 19:06
> To: lars.eggert@nokia.com; Briscoe,RJ,Bob,XVR9 BRISCORJ R
> Cc: re-ecn@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [re-ECN] BoF Proposal for wider IETF
> 
> I think I found my own answer (yes, officially), per
> http://trac.tools.ietf.org/bof/trac/wiki/WikiStart#Transport.
> 
> -- Rich
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: re-ecn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:re-ecn-bounces@ietf.org] On
> Behalf
> Of Woundy, Richard
> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 10:33 AM
> To: lars.eggert@nokia.com; rbriscoe@jungle.bt.co.uk
> Cc: re-ecn@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [re-ECN] BoF Proposal for wider IETF
> 
> >you need to have submitted a BOF proposal by the deadline. See
> RFC5434,
> Section 2, Step 5.
> 
> Did we make the deadline?
> 
> -- Rich
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