Re: [Reap] [saag] PSA: New list for discussing EAP related methods

Mohit Sethi <mohit.m.sethi@ericsson.com> Thu, 26 October 2017 17:16 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Reap] [saag] PSA: New list for discussing EAP related methods
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Hi Bernard,

The EAP-TLS 1.3 document is a very rough drafty version that was 
submitted before the cut-off for the last IETF. As you rightly point 
out, it has the skeleton and a lot of material from RFC5216, and still 
many important details are missing.

The purpose of this list is to exactly receive these kind of comments. 
Should RFC5216 be updated or obsoleted by this draft. And it would be 
great if we can have your contributions to the document. We will 
definitely add an acknowledgement section and contact the authors of 
RFC5216 to see if they can contribute and comment. We plan to have more 
EAP related contributions in the near future. We discussed this with the 
Security ADs and thought that a separate list would be appropriate to 
get feedback/criticism and contributions from the folks interested.

--Mohit


On 10/26/2017 06:51 PM, Bernard Aboba wrote:
> There are existing functioning IETF mailing lists relating to EAP.
>
> Why are you starting yet another one?
>
> From what I can tell, the EAP-TLS 1.3 draft is merely a copy of RFC 
> 5216 (with no acknowledgement to the original authors) stating that 
> EAP-TLS implementations must support TLS 1.3.
>
> This is ridiculous because there are 1+ Billion existing 
> implementations out there that
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 6:02 AM, Mohit Sethi 
> <mohit.m.sethi@ericsson.com <mailto:mohit.m.sethi@ericsson.com>> wrote:
>
>     Dear all,
>
>     We have started a mailing list for discussing new EAP related work
>     that currently has no obvious home. The mailing list is called
>     REAP (Renew EAP) reap@ietf.org <mailto:reap@ietf.org> and you can
>     subscribe here:
>     https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/reap
>     <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/reap>
>
>     Recently several new EAP methods have been proposed. These include
>     for example:
>
>     EAP-TLS 1.3:
>     https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mattsson-eap-tls13-00
>     <https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mattsson-eap-tls13-00>
>
>     EAP-NOOB: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-aura-eap-noob-02
>     <https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-aura-eap-noob-02>
>
>     EAP-SASL: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-vanrein-eap-sasl-00
>     <https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-vanrein-eap-sasl-00>
>
>     The list serves as a venue for discussion of these and other EAP
>     related drafts that will be submitted in the near future. As
>     courtesy, we will post any new draft to SAAG, but we plan to
>     continue the discussion only on the REAP mailing list. We have
>     also asked for a short presentation slot during SECDISPATCH at
>     IETF 100 in Singapore.
>
>     Comments, early feedback, and discussion on existing or new work
>     is more than welcome.
>
>     --Mohit
>
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