Re: [regext] rfc7484bis

Marc Blanchet <marc.blanchet@viagenie.ca> Tue, 11 August 2020 18:55 UTC

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From: Marc Blanchet <marc.blanchet@viagenie.ca>
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On 4 Aug 2020, at 15:47, Patrick Mevzek wrote:
>
> PS: related but not directly, at least for domain registries, it would 
> be
> nice to have an `SRV` record on `_rdap._tcp` or something to point to 
> relevant
> RDAP server, even if that does not allow to encode the path (but maybe 
> a solution with .well-known/ and URI template could be found), it 
> allows at least
> for nice failover and load balancing. It may be a problem for gTLDs as 
> they have
> restrictions in content of their zone.

well, this has been debated at length during the WEIRDS working group 
work. I actually wrote a sentence about this in the RFC (in the 
acknowledgements section). I’m not sure we want to restart the debate 
again…

> Maybe the newly expected SCVB record could help...
>
> A setup like that would allow for discoverability without 
> centralization of data,
> which also removes IANA from the hot operational path when RDAP 
> clients do queries.

yes. this is the well-known caveat of this RFC and discussed and debated 
during WEIRDS. But experience up to now has not shown any issue, at 
least to my knowledge. (and as a developer of the RDAP Browser mobile 
app, I haven’t seen any issue fetching that registry. I do have found 
thousands of issues with the registry/registrars RDAP servers however, 
but that is another story).

Marc.

>
> -- 
>   Patrick Mevzek
>   pm@dotandco.com