Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses and EPP
Klaus Malorny <Klaus.Malorny@knipp.de> Thu, 19 November 2020 15:20 UTC
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Subject: Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses and EPP
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Hi Scott et al., sorry for proposing the following so late in the discussion. Due to other duties, my visits to the list were less frequent in the recent time. Looking at the two options - update of RFC 5733 or an extension -, I probably would tend to the first option, but I understand the problems with it. What I regard as suboptimal in respect to the proposed EPP extension [1] is the big effort for the little issue (RFC-wise and implementation-wise), and also using this dummy placeholder [EAI-DUMMY] in the original <email> XML element (while I know that this has been done before). For a non-supporting registrar the latter is probably similarly confusing as an updated RFC 5733. Well, you could argue that the registry can distinguish supporting and non-supporting clients upon extensions specified at the login and behave differently. And here comes my proposal: As the original email XML element could transport the internationalized e-mail address XML schema-wise, as mentioned before, why not reduce the whole extension to a single extension URI without any real EPP extension in the <extension> section? No schema, no extra data. The presence in the login would simply indicate: "yes, I can deal with internationalized e-mail addresses in the <email> element in the contact object", like a flag. Well, I know that would be a novel way of using extensions, but it would reduce the implementation effort a lot on the other hand. Regards, Klaus [1] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-belyavskiy-epp-eai-01
- [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses and EPP Hollenbeck, Scott
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Barry Leiba
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Gould, James
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Dmitry Belyavsky
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Mario Loffredo
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Gould, James
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… John Levine
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Gould, James
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… John Levine
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Gould, James
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Hollenbeck, Scott
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Dmitry Belyavsky
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Mario Loffredo
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Hollenbeck, Scott
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Jiankang Yao
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Hollenbeck, Scott
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Klaus Malorny
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Gould, James
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Hollenbeck, Scott
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Klaus Malorny
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Gould, James
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Klaus Malorny
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Hollenbeck, Scott
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Taras Heichenko
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Hollenbeck, Scott
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Dmitry Belyavsky
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Mario Loffredo
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Alexander Mayrhofer
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Hollenbeck, Scott
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Matthias Pfeifer
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Dmitry Belyavsky
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Gould, James
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Patrick Mevzek
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Taras Heichenko
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Patrick Mevzek
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Hollenbeck, Scott
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Hollenbeck, Scott
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Patrick Mevzek
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Patrick Mevzek
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… John Levine
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Dmitry Belyavsky
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Taras Heichenko
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Patrick Mevzek
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Taras Heichenko
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Taras Heichenko
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Patrick Mevzek
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Taras Heichenko
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Patrick Mevzek
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Taras Heichenko
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Patrick Mevzek
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Hollenbeck, Scott
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Patrick Mevzek
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Taras Heichenko
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Taras Heichenko
- Re: [regext] Internationalized Email Addresses an… Gould, James