Re: [regext] [art] [Last-Call] Artart last call review of draft-ietf-regext-epp-eai-12

["Martin J. Dürst" <[e-mail]>]

[sorry to be late with my comment; traveling]

Not objecting to the general direction of the discussion, and in 
particular Patrick's points about multiple registrations and 
transferability from a registrant's purpose, but one comment below.

On 2022-08-18 14:59, John C Klensin wrote:
> James,
> 
> Replying to this note rather that several of the others because
> it most clearly identifies what is being done.  I am copying, I
> hope, the relevant review teams.
> 
> There are, I believe, three separate but closely-related issues
> here:
> 
> (1) The document, through the -14 draft, contained some language
> about an "extra" all-ASCII address when an SMTPUTF8 address was
> supplied.  It failed to indicate how that was to be transmitted,
> what function it served, where it might appear in data
> structures, etc.  You now propose to solve that problem by
> eliminating the discussion of such addresses, presumably because
> it is strictly a registrar <-> registrant issues.   That would
> be fine, except...
> 
> (2) Whether we like it or not, when non-ASCII email addresses,
> especially ones using scripts very different from European and
> other so-called GLC-related one are used in arbitrary ways, they
> don't work smoothly and globally.  They are fine for, e.g.,
> ccTLDs where communications, as well as domain name labels are
> confined to a script or two and known providers, but not for
> generalized communications or registries handling arbitrary
> scripts.    If the purpose of this protocol is ultimately to
> populate registry databases -- databases whose contents are
> expected to provide reliable contact and identify information
> for registrants even if that information is only accessible
> under court order or the equivalent -- then all-ASCII
> alternative addresses are a necessity.

If it comes to court orders, then please note that courts and lawyers 
and the like are perfectly able to deal with issues with foreign 
scripts. (It may take some more time (when it comes to courts) and money 
(when it comes to lawyers).)

It's always possible to pay somebody for translation/transcription. 
Recently, software such as Google translate may work extremely well in 
most cases. It certainly did very recently when I tried for my own 
Japanese address. Also, if courts or lawyers need to contact somebody by 
EAI email address, they may set up EAI-capable software or ask somebody 
to do that for them or send the necessary messages for them. But most 
probably, they will chose to use snail mail, because that's a mode of 
communication that's more established in legal circles.

Regards,   Martin.