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Re: [regext] [Ext] Robert Wilton's Discuss on draft-ietf-regext-data-escrow-07: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

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From: Roger D Carney <rcarney@godaddy.com>
To: "Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck=40verisign.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, "barryleiba@computer.org" <barryleiba@computer.org>, "rwilton=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org" <rwilton=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
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+1 Scott.



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Subject: Re: [regext] [Ext] Robert Wilton's Discuss on draft-ietf-regext-data-escrow-07: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: regext <regext-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Barry Leiba
> Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2020 1:37 PM
> To: Rob Wilton (rwilton) <rwilton=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
> Cc: Gould, James <jgould@verisign.com>; regext-chairs@ietf.org; The IESG
> <iesg@ietf.org>; Gustavo Lozano <gustavo.lozano@icann.org>;
> regext@ietf.org; draft-ietf-regext-data-escrow@ietf.org
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [regext] [Ext] Robert Wilton's Discuss on draft-ietf-
> regext-data-escrow-07: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
>
> I'm afraid I have to agree with Gustavo that the terms used here need to
> match what's used in the domain this is written for.  It's often the case that
> things mean different things in different domains, and sometimes those
> domains are similar enough that we wish it weren't the case.  When it is,
> that's sad... but.
>
> Unless someone in the working group wants to tell us that Gustavo is wrong
> and we should go with what Rob suggests, I think the discussion has been
> had.  I *would* like to hear some input from the working group on this,
> though, before we make any final decisions.

A description of the terms tied to their use in the document really should be sufficient.

Scott
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