[regext] Re: Charter question (was Re: CALL FOR ADOPTION: draft-yao-regext-epp-quic and draft-loffredo-regext-epp-over-http)
"Andrew Newton (andy)" <andy@hxr.us> Tue, 18 February 2025 19:01 UTC
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From: "Andrew Newton (andy)" <andy@hxr.us>
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2025 14:01:35 -0500
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Subject: [regext] Re: Charter question (was Re: CALL FOR ADOPTION: draft-yao-regext-epp-quic and draft-loffredo-regext-epp-over-http)
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On Thu, Feb 13, 2025 at 9:58 AM Hollenbeck, Scott <shollenbeck@verisign.com> wrote: > > > [SAH] I don't see anything in RFC 7451 that would preclude registration of a new transport mapping in the IANA EPP extension registry. Jim's proposal is worth considering. "Extensions should be evaluated for architectural soundness using the guidelines described in RFC 3735..." Very clearly 7451 is about extensions described in RFC 3735. 7451 does say IETF standards don't require DE review, but that doesn't get around the purpose for this registry or that the IETF should be misusing its own protocol registries just to avoid following the process. Why the strong pushback on a recharter? -andy
- [regext] Re: CALL FOR ADOPTION: draft-yao-regext-… Hollenbeck, Scott
- [regext] Re: CALL FOR ADOPTION: draft-yao-regext-… Eric Skoglund
- [regext] Re: CALL FOR ADOPTION: draft-yao-regext-… Jasdip Singh
- [regext] Re: CALL FOR ADOPTION: draft-yao-regext-… kowalik
- [regext] Re: CALL FOR ADOPTION: draft-yao-regext-… Gould, James
- [regext] Re: CALL FOR ADOPTION: draft-yao-regext-… Gould, James
- [regext] Re: CALL FOR ADOPTION: draft-yao-regext-… Mario Loffredo
- [regext] Re: CALL FOR ADOPTION: draft-yao-regext-… James Galvin
- [regext] Re: Charter question (was Re: CALL FOR A… Gould, James
- [regext] Re: Charter question (was Re: CALL FOR A… Hollenbeck, Scott
- [regext] Re: Charter question (was Re: CALL FOR A… Gould, James
- [regext] Re: Charter question (was Re: CALL FOR A… Hollenbeck, Scott
- [regext] Re: Charter question (was Re: CALL FOR A… Hollenbeck, Scott
- [regext] Re: Charter question (was Re: CALL FOR A… James Galvin
- [regext] Re: CALL FOR ADOPTION: draft-yao-regext-… James Galvin
- [regext] Re: [Ext] CALL FOR ADOPTION: draft-yao-r… AlBanna, Zaid
- [regext] Re: Charter question (was Re: CALL FOR A… Gould, James
- [regext] Re: CALL FOR ADOPTION: draft-yao-regext-… James Galvin
- [regext] Re: CALL FOR ADOPTION: draft-yao-regext-… kowalik@denic.de
- [regext] Charter question (was Re: CALL FOR ADOPT… Andrew Newton (andy)
- [regext] Re: [Ext] CALL FOR ADOPTION: draft-yao-r… AlBanna, Zaid
- [regext] CALL FOR ADOPTION: draft-yao-regext-epp-… James Galvin
- [regext] Re: [Ext] CALL FOR ADOPTION: draft-yao-r… Gavin Brown
- [regext] Re: [Ext] CALL FOR ADOPTION: draft-yao-r… Gavin Brown
- [regext] Re: Charter question (was Re: CALL FOR A… Andrew Newton (andy)
- [regext] Re: Charter question (was Re: CALL FOR A… Andrew Newton (andy)