Re: [regext] [OPS-DIR] Opsdir last call review of draft-ietf-regext-data-escrow-05

Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net> Tue, 07 April 2020 12:00 UTC

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Thank you - this was a very helpful review, and I used it to inform my
balloting.

On Sat, Feb 29, 2020 at 7:52 AM Susan Hares via Datatracker
<noreply@ietf.org> wrote:
>
> Reviewer: Susan Hares
> Review result: Ready
>
> Status:  Ready
> comments:  Excellent write-up
>
> Detailed Comment:  I have read and re-read this document to find an error in
> the technical text.

:-)

> Congratulations to the authors.  This is one of the few
> documents I cannot find any improvement in the base text.

Indeed - thanks to the authors and WG for being so diligent,
W

>
> Did you check the text code snippet with a validator?  If not, it is normally
> good form.
>
> My operational comments on this document are "meta-comments" for the Operations
> AD below
> -------------------
>
> The security section starts out with the phrase:
>  "This specification does not define the security mechanism to be used
> in the transmission of the dat escrow deposits, since it only
> specifies the  minimum necessary to enable the rebuidling of a
> registry from the deposits wtihotu intervention from the original registry."
>
> Given this focus, it is difficult to determine if the data deposited is really
> the data that was on the original source.   The language among the
> depositers is couched in "recommended" and "should".
>
> As a META question, the IESG reviewers should ask is the the "best"
> than can be done due to the on the legal constraints in the countries
> that the data registries live in.  If so, it would be wise to provide
> a second document that provides additional suggestions for
> countries in which additional operational security can be mandated.
>
>
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