Re: [regext] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-regext-rdap-sorting-and-paging-15

Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org> Mon, 17 August 2020 19:57 UTC

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From: Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org>
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 15:56:58 -0400
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To: Mario Loffredo <mario.loffredo@iit.cnr.it>
Cc: Vijay Gurbani <vijay.gurbani@gmail.com>, draft-ietf-regext-rdap-sorting-and-paging.all@ietf.org, gen-art@ietf.org, last-call@ietf.org, regext@ietf.org
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Subject: Re: [regext] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-regext-rdap-sorting-and-paging-15
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Hi, Mario and Vijay.

7942 says that the Implementation Status section is inappropriate to
include in an RFC because it’s transient information that changes, and is
usually obsolete quickly.

But I don’t interpret Vijay’s suggestion as asking you to leave the section
in the document in it’s entirety, but, rather, to put non-ephemeral
information about a reference implementation into an appendix.  If there’s
a stable implementation that can be used in that way, I think it would be
appropriate, and I agree with Vijay that it could be helpful to other
implementors to have that information available.

Barry

On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 8:26 AM Mario Loffredo <mario.loffredo@iit.cnr.it>
wrote:

> Hi Vijay,
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> thanks a lot for your review. I provide my responses to your feedback
> below.
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> Il 16/08/2020 01:00, Vijay Gurbani via Datatracker ha scritto:
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> > Reviewer: Vijay Gurbani
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> > Review result: Ready with Nits
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> >
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> > I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General Area
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> > Review Team (Gen-ART) reviews all IETF documents being processed
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> > by the IESG for the IETF Chair.  Please treat these comments just
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> > like any other last call comments.
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> >
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> > For more information, please see the FAQ at
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> >
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> > <https://trac.ietf.org/trac/gen/wiki/GenArtfaq>.
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> >
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> > Document: draft-ietf-regext-rdap-sorting-and-paging-??
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> > Reviewer: Vijay K. Gurbani
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> > Review Date: 2020-08-15
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> > IETF LC End Date: 2020-08-13
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> > IESG Telechat date: Not scheduled for a telechat
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> >
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> > Summary: The draft is ready for publication as a proposed standard, with
> a
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> > couple of nits.
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> >
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> > Major issues: 0
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> >
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> > Minor issues: 0
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> >
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> > Nits/editorial comments: 2
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> >
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> > - Section 6: I understand that RFC7942 requests the authors to add a
> note to
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> > the RFC Editor to remove this section, but I also understand that this
> is a
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> > request to the author, and not a mandate (no normative language).   As an
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> > implementer, I always find it easy to start with some bootstrapping
> code, so I
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> > find such implementation notes helpful.  You may wish to consider
> including
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> > this information in an Appendix.
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> [ML] According to what is stated in RFC7942, the "Implementation Status"
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> section "... is inappropriate for inclusion in a published RFC."
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> Despite this, I would agree with you if that section included a client
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> implementation because clients are more likely than servers to be
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> publicly available as open source applications.
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> Definitively, I believe that the examples included in the document are
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> sufficient to explain the specification.
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> Hope you are okay with that.
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> >
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> > - Section 1, towards end of Page 3: s/that could be/that is often/
> (Reason:
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> > "could be" implies that truncation could happen, but is may not, "is
> often"
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> > implies the same thing, but that phrase seems somehow more deterministic
> than
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> > "could be".  This is a suggestion, please use your editorial discretion
> as
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> > appropriate.)
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> [ML] Sounds much better. I correct the phrase.
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> Best,
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> Mario
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> --
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> Dr. Mario Loffredo
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