Re: [regext] New-AD review of draft-ietf-regext-bundling-registration-09

Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org> Fri, 04 October 2019 14:00 UTC

Return-Path: <barryleiba@gmail.com>
X-Original-To: regext@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: regext@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 865A012004C; Fri, 4 Oct 2019 07:00:41 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.478
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.478 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.172, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4jP-XSpFJAr5; Fri, 4 Oct 2019 07:00:40 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail-io1-f51.google.com (mail-io1-f51.google.com [209.85.166.51]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 61B15120071; Fri, 4 Oct 2019 07:00:40 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by mail-io1-f51.google.com with SMTP id c6so13626979ioo.13; Fri, 04 Oct 2019 07:00:40 -0700 (PDT)
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2HgNudIcHZuWJ/SECelX1+Qz2VsX23Qw00lDhqjapHM=; b=Z6uSJJUSlB9yMeb5VvH1Vbi+xUD6E5YTOI64O8U4s0poHc2ZzoP8ppgsbZTnb/oTiD lJzMDQA5tWCpHVh7WSWz5tlyuhyXxarvBwfqzk1zl5Lh9mS2sI9C6b87r4MqX8iK+VCA JxV1BpsZpE6OGIwe6PsPhkISQTCcNbnuWarg5DqkOSM5Q3EqW9zCe0hn/5TSln9OrhOP KGOCesxyBGmNJHR39og4YoIVdj7rscINu92HlvR/3B3TgOkYtk8SLH5DC6SG5z/Rejqn HQrhd2D2cIILRFCORCUXp/BJEmX/8AOe1WqBDJVh5/mD8XtIutMJwOuW0qn1HDUB2h0v 9+ww==
X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWhVB34A/j0yDILhlcOhv0oSvoIUeC5c3DfH3melyaMZOrsm8xO EN0zrTOWNWzcuJEVtjfjmiumJMKzwewsTlDNpWeZJdm0
X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyMuk1UGScuRKD9togj6EY/iRxB5CU1tsMzC5rrCexDkUQ/pqWQmcG9NpYh1kDeZVJTEQZSuZKZ9nNkwSExERc=
X-Received: by 2002:a92:6c01:: with SMTP id h1mr16296320ilc.107.1570197639291; Fri, 04 Oct 2019 07:00:39 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <CALaySJK1PSK_O0CKSVGqk2PzXyYKhLm81fKv+5_Oago8Npu9ig@mail.gmail.com> <62169347-F8F6-45FC-B368-5E6169CDE91D@cnnic.cn> <CALaySJLhY3K5QPFPtPM_h0zzGTG2bKqZR7Hjq-UG-M5Dmbc7Pg@mail.gmail.com> <2b634f98.fe8.16d29c69b6e.Coremail.yaojk@cnnic.cn> <18c7da51.110e.16d53888c54.Coremail.yaojk@cnnic.cn> <CALaySJJPT0T+YO8_2XdRoc85Amvf+iAkVBJzCLu7oU1_V3_jtA@mail.gmail.com> <668f4fc7.1291.16d969fa2fd.Coremail.yaojk@cnnic.cn>
In-Reply-To: <668f4fc7.1291.16d969fa2fd.Coremail.yaojk@cnnic.cn>
From: Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org>
Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2019 10:00:27 -0400
Message-ID: <CALaySJJvy-aHLxtyvR7te_jfOAASdSh_mrYOe-uWRMg7fm8ORw@mail.gmail.com>
To: Jiankang Yao <yaojk@cnnic.cn>
Cc: "draft-ietf-regext-bundling-registration.all" <draft-ietf-regext-bundling-registration.all@ietf.org>, regext <regext@ietf.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/regext/Mdvfnyrz5QEWOXJbv8JH9BCD6EI>
Subject: Re: [regext] New-AD review of draft-ietf-regext-bundling-registration-09
X-BeenThere: regext@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: Registration Protocols Extensions <regext.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/regext>, <mailto:regext-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/regext/>
List-Post: <mailto:regext@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:regext-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/regext>, <mailto:regext-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2019 14:00:42 -0000

Thanks, Jiankang.

On one point only:

>> The SecDir review suggested changing the contact for the IANA
>> registrations to the IETF, rather than the authors, and I agree: it
>> should be “the IETF”, probably with the regext mailing list as the
>> contact information.  You did not make any change.  Please do.
>>
>> You also did not address my comment about needing an explanation for
>> why this is Informational and not Proposed Standard.  It’s fine for it
>> to be Informational, but the shepherd writeup needs to explain why
>> (please update it), and the Introduction probably should also,
>> assuming that reason has to do with the deployment, applicability, or
>> maturity of what’s documented here.
>
> Yao:  In the section "IANA Considerations" , we will add the following sentence
>
> " This document describes a non-standard EPP
> extension, so that the registrant contact will use author's address under the REGEXT WG's guidance."

I don't think that's where you should put it, and at this point I
don't think you need to make any change to the IANA Considerations.
As I said in my note in response to you and Antoin:

> The explanation that
> this is a proprietary extension and where it comes from needs to be in
> the Introduction (early in the Introduction).  I would also mention it
> in the abstract (change "This document describes an extension" to
> something like, "This document describes a non-standard proprietary
> extension").

In addition to the change I suggest above to the Abstract, I would
like to see a change to this paragraph in the Introduction:

   In order to meet the above requirements of strict bundled name
   registration, this document describes an extension of the EPP domain
   name mapping [RFC5731] for the provisioning and management of bundled
   names.

To start with, I'd like it to say "describes a non-standard
proprietary extension".  But then I'd like to see another sentence
after what's above, which says a little more about where the
proprietary extension comes from, and a work about its deployment (is
it limited to certain environments, certain companies, certain
registries/registrars, certain countries?).

This should be easy: we're only talking about a few sentences.

Barry