Re: [regext] WG LAST CALL: draft-ietf-regext-rfc7482bis

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From: "Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: regext <regext-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of James Galvin
> Sent: Friday, October 2, 2020 4:15 PM
> To: regext@ietf.org
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [regext] WG LAST CALL: draft-ietf-regext-rfc7482bis
>
> The WGLC for this document was scheduled to end today.  While there is
> support to move the document forward there is one minor comment that
> has been raised during the last call.
>
> The chairs would like to hear from other working group members as to what
> to do with this comment.  Rather than close the last call and risk another last
> call, we are extending this last call for another week.  If we can come to a
> consensus as to how to proceed before the end of last call than the
> document can stay on track to be submitted to the IESG after the last call.
>
> The WG last call will end at close of business on Friday, 9 October 2020.
>
>
> Here are the comments as seen on the mailing list.  Please respond with
> your suggestions regarding these two comments.
>
>
> James Gould:
>
> Yes, lumping the registrar object with the contact object under a single
> RDAP entity object interface is the rub.  We solved the problem in the
> RDAP Profile, by supporting entity lookup by IANA ID (number) and
> registrar name (string) for the registrar objects, and by ROID
> (“((\w|_){1,80}-\w{1,8}") for the contact objects.  Where there is
> overlap, which is registrar name (string) and ROID
> ((“((\w|_){1,80}-\w{1,8}") the contact takes precedence.  My
> recommendation is to provide guidance in the section 3.1.5 "Entity Path
> Segment Specification" for this real world case:
>
> The <handle> parameter represents an entity (such as a contact,
> registrant, or registrar) identifier whose syntax is specific to the
> registration provider.  For example, for some DNRs, contact
> identifiers are specified in [RFC5730] and [RFC5733], and
> registrar identifiers are specified using the IANA Registrar ID
> assigned by ICANN.  The server SHOULD define a scheme
> for the <handle> parameter to differentiate between the
> supported entity object types (e.g., contact and registrar),
> such as using different <handle> formats, using a <handle>
> precedence order, or a combination of formats and precedence
> order.
>
> The SHOULD could be a MUST, but the point is to provide guidance to
> implementers of the protocol.
>
> Two responses have been offered:
>
> Jasdip Singh response:
>
> One thought is if it could be in the RDAP profile doc for the DNRs
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> That way no need to update the spec.
>
> James Gould response:
>
> The RDAP Profile is dependent on the RFC, so I wouldn't create a
> circular dependency.  My recommendation is to take the lessons learned
> in implementing the RFC and provide guidance on how to handle it in the
> RFC directly.

[SAH] I don't think we reached consensus to change anything in the draft, so I left this one alone.

Scott