[regext] Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-rdap-extensions-05.txt

"kowalik@denic.de" <kowalik@denic.de> Wed, 12 February 2025 17:14 UTC

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Hi Scott,

On 12.02.25 18:06, Hollenbeck, Scott wrote:
>
> *From:* Pawel Kowalik <kowalik@denic.de>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 12, 2025 11:59 AM
> *To:* Andrew Newton (andy) <andy@hxr.us>
> *Cc:* regext@ietf.org
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] [regext] Re: I-D Action: 
> draft-ietf-regext-rdap-extensions-05.txt
>
> Hi Andy,
>
> On 12.02.25 17:06, Andrew Newton (andy) wrote:
>
>         Allowing bare identifiers still leave the choice open for extensions which have a potential of generic use.
>
>     Why does requiring a prefix preclude generic use?
>
> Of course technically nothing, because syntactically a prefixed 
> identifier is also an identifier.
>
> On the other side, if an extension only wants to add one single path 
> segment /search/ what's good about forcing this extension to make it 
> /s_search/ just for the sake of making "s_" a namespace with one 
> single suffix in it?
>
> */[SAH] Because there’s value in consistency./*
>
[PK] True. In this case by introducing consistency we actually break 
consistency with existing extensions, some of them being RFCs. So I 
argue it's not worth it. It's not something that is broken that needs to 
be fixed.

Kind Regards,

Pawel