Re: [regext] REGEXT Interim Meeting 2018OCT16

["Patrick Mevzek" <[e-mail]>]

On Mon, Nov 26, 2018, at 13:58, Roger D Carney wrote:
>  * I still don’t like the use of the <validate:kv> elements as a 
> “flexible mechanism to share data between the client and the server”. 

There are many registries going this route, and it is very sad, even
if easy to understand why.
It voids any usefulness of the schema attached to the (XML) documents,
and basically will only need to interoperability problem because this content
will not be described in an automated content, and relying on human
documentation is not enough.

>     * The schedule format to use with the <registry:batchJob> 
> <registry:schedule> element 
> <https://github.com/james-f-gould/EPP-Registry-Mapping/issues/5>    * 
> *Discussion*
>  * This particular topic is not straight forward, since we need a 
> condensed mechanism to define the batch schedules. 

I do not see why "condensed". We are in XML land already, which is not
known for its small size anyway so why would there be a need here to
condense things?

>     * Ensure that the hostAddr model of RFC 5731 is supported 
> <https://github.com/james-f-gould/EPP-Registry-Mapping/issues/1>    * 
> *Discussion*
>  * In the case of a zone that supports domain:hostAddr instead of 
> domain:hostObj, 

No. It is not "instead".
Have a look at the example on page 19 of some registry documentation
at https://www.viestintavirasto.fi/attachments/fi-verkkotunnus/EPP_interface.pdf

You will see that both options can cohabit.

Now, I already know that some people will say: this is not allowed per EPP specifications.

But besides that it is important to be clear on the purpose of this extension:
being as "pure" and perfect as possible, with the hope that non-conforming current
cases will then suddenly decide to fix their thing in order to be able to use it, or
being as inclusive as possible so that as many registries as possible are using it
as is.

I think this extension can be very useful if many registries implement it.
If it is only a few, it will not give registrars a lot of useful data, and hence
they will not profit from it.

And I do not think that "not conforming" cases will feel the need to change just
to be able to implement this extension.

This is a generic point I may try to raise again later in the past threads about
this extension. It is an important question, that is itself tied to the amount
of energy devoted to each extension, which extension becomes working group documents
and which extensions really solve problem of more than one registry and hence
may have the chance to be implemented by a sizeable chunk of current players.

HTH,

-- 
  Patrick Mevzek