Re: [regext] IANA Considerations in draft-ietf-regext-rdap-reverse-search

Mario Loffredo <mario.loffredo@iit.cnr.it> Fri, 31 July 2020 14:37 UTC

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Subject: Re: [regext] IANA Considerations in draft-ietf-regext-rdap-reverse-search
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Hi George,

thanks for your feedback.

Il 31/07/2020 15:08, George Michaelson ha scritto:
> My understanding of the sense of the room, is that it is beholden on
> the numbers space to construct words for Security Considerations which
> address the _problem statement_ inherent in privacy and security, Not
> to specify fixes, but to document the issues and the sense Jim Reid
> brought into the room was to advise operators to factor their
> local/national/jurisdictional law into this, and respect it.
>
> -G

Honestly, being involved in the management of a ccTLD, I'm not so 
experienced in the specific issues related to the numbers space. This is 
the reason why the "Privacy Considerations" section is mostly tailored 
to the namespace.

Obviously, any suggestion to make privacy and security considerations 
more comprehensive is welcome.

Best,

Mario.


> On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 11:05 PM Mario Loffredo
> <mario.loffredo@iit.cnr.it> wrote:
>> Hi Scott,
>>
>> thanks a lot for your feddback.
>>
>> Please find my comments to your feedback below.
>>
>> Il 31/07/2020 14:29, Hollenbeck, Scott ha scritto:
>>> draft-ietf-regext-rdap-reverse-search currently states that "This document has no actions for IANA".  I believe that's primarily because there's nothing new or different being returned in the search results, which is where RDAP servers describe the features they support.
>> Exactly.
>>> There is, however, a case to be made for registering a value in the RDAP extensions registry: a response to a help query (or any other query) can be used to indicate that the server supports reverse search. I'd like to suggest this change for Section 7:
>>>
>>> OLD:
>>> This document has no actions for IANA.
>>>
>>> NEW:
>>> IANA is requested to register the following value in the RDAP Extensions Registry:
>>>
>>> Extension identifier: reverse_search_1_0 (or whatever makes sense)
>>> Registry operator: Any
>>> Published specification: This document.
>>> Contact: IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
>>> Intended usage: This extension describes reverse search query patterns for RDAP.
>>>
>>> Scott
>> I agree.
>>
>> Furthermore, my opinion is that Section 4.1 of RFC7483bis should be
>> updated to treat this use case. I mean, a server should signal in
>> rdapConformance not only the extensions used in building the response
>> but all the supported features.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Mario
>>
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