Re: [regext] WG LAST CALL: draft-ietf-regext-rfc7482bis

"Gould, James" <jgould@verisign.com> Thu, 24 September 2020 16:57 UTC

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From: "Gould, James" <jgould@verisign.com>
To: "jasdips@arin.net" <jasdips@arin.net>, "Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com>, "ietf@antoin.nl" <ietf@antoin.nl>, "regext@ietf.org" <regext@ietf.org>
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The RDAP Profile is dependent on the RFC, so I wouldn't create a circular dependency.  My recommendation is to take the lessons learned in implementing the RFC and provide guidance on how to handle it in the RFC directly.  

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On 9/24/20, 12:36 PM, "Jasdip Singh" <jasdips@arin.net> wrote:

    Hello Scott, James.
    
    One thought is if it could be in the RDAP profile doc for the DNRs (https://secure-web.cisco.com/1rpKdfnEnk1Kr48jubRhCwGFht_mdOahH1FgtC67Iah_PrHMRfoEWU7HXESyJMsZ1OIrHjKe_tH2TpZoS255ApsvovkAtXUNwdbGgZJvfSeVCCqQLWq9VITVXtaoP1CXev-IOKJzpfYJuv2IdKIbkjHbWdjq01FUNgLIDCk7SmcLSunTUIorviDc_vhPujx8fojQQ7yt8yaTmqpI7NSwr0xLY-umkpcXmEOIqjCmmh5tYAW-z9AdTAX4NVP2ncoTILCIvB-TlRg1bVusnHZKw-w/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.icann.org%2Fresources%2Fpages%2Frdap-operational-profile-2016-07-26-en). That way no need to update the spec.
    
    Jasdip
    
    On 9/24/20, 12:31 PM, "regext on behalf of Hollenbeck, Scott" <regext-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of shollenbeck=40verisign.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
    
        > -----Original Message-----
        > From: Gould, James <jgould=40verisign.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
        > Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 2:27 PM
        > To: Hollenbeck, Scott <shollenbeck@verisign.com>om>; ietf@antoin.nl;
        > regext@ietf.org
        > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [regext] WG LAST CALL: draft-ietf-regext-rfc7482bis
        >
        > Scott,
        >
        > Yes, lumping the registrar object with the contact object under a single RDAP
        > entity object interface is the rub.  We solved the problem in the RDAP
        > Profile, by supporting entity lookup by IANA ID (number) and registrar name
        > (string) for the registrar objects, and by ROID (“((\w|_){1,80}-\w{1,8}") for
        > the contact objects.  Where there is overlap, which is registrar name (string)
        > and ROID ((“((\w|_){1,80}-\w{1,8}") the contact takes precedence.  My
        > recommendation is to provide guidance in the section 3.1.5 "Entity Path
        > Segment Specification" for this real world case:
        >
        > The <handle> parameter represents an entity (such as a contact, registrant,
        > or registrar) identifier whose syntax is specific to the registration provider.
        > For example, for some DNRs, contact identifiers are specified in [RFC5730]
        > and [RFC5733], and registrar identifiers are specified using the IANA Registrar
        > ID assigned by ICANN.  The server SHOULD define a scheme for the <handle>
        > parameter to differentiate between the supported entity object types (e.g.,
        > contact and registrar), such as using different <handle> formats, using a
        > <handle> precedence order, or a combination of formats and precedence
        > order.
        >
        > The SHOULD could be a MUST, but the point is to provide guidance to
        > implementers of the protocol.
        
        I'd like to see some discussion of this suggestion, too. What do people think? Is it necessary?
        
        Scott
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