Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-rfc7483bis-00.txt

"Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com> Mon, 22 June 2020 11:14 UTC

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From: "Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com>
To: "tomh@apnic.net" <tomh@apnic.net>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Harrison <tomh@apnic.net>
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 6:15 PM
> To: Hollenbeck, Scott <shollenbeck@verisign.com>
> Cc: mario.loffredo@iit.cnr.it; regext@ietf.org
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-rfc7483bis-
> 00.txt
>
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 01:08:53PM +0000, Hollenbeck, Scott wrote:
> > From: Tom Harrison <tomh@apnic.net>
> >> The motivation for including "except in jCard objects" originally was
> >> to make it clear that an implementor couldn't include the lang
> >> attribute as defined in this section in a jCard object.  To preserve
> >> that aspect while making it clear that the language-related content
> >> defined in jCard may be used, I think the following would work
> >> better:
> >>
> >>     The "lang" attribute as defined in this section may appear
> >>     anywhere in an object class or data structure, except for in
> >>     jCard objects.  To avoid any doubt, language-related tags and
> >>     parameters defined by jCard itself may be used in jCard
> >>     objects.
> >>
> >> though the wording is a little awkward.
> >
> > Thanks for the suggestion, Tom. How about this instead?
> >
> > "The "lang" attribute as defined in this section may appear anywhere
> > in an object class or data structure, except for in jCard objects.
> > The "Language Tag" value described in RFC 7095 [RFC7095] MAY be used
> > in jCard objects."
>
> I think this is fine, but the MAY could be interpreted in isolation as implying
> that the document contains some more general prohibition on the use of all
> of jCard's functionality, which might lead to confusion.  It's hardly a big
> problem, but another suggestion:
>
>     The "lang" attribute as defined in this section may appear
>     anywhere in an object class or data structure, except for in jCard
>     objects.  jCard supports similar functionality by way of the
>     LANGUAGE property parameter: see Section 5.1 of [RFC6350].
>
> Simply striking the second sentence is another option, too (so that the only
> change from RFC 7483 is the addition of "as defined in this section").  But in
> any event, I think your suggested text is fine.

I'll use your suggestion. I just realized, though, that we should also change "may" to "MAY" in " The "lang" attribute as defined in this section may appear". Thanks for the feedback!

Scott