Re: [regext] Security Lock anyone? (Was: Preliminary agenda for Prague, and call for agenda items)

Marc Groeneweg <Marc.Groeneweg@sidn.nl> Mon, 25 February 2019 16:12 UTC

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From: Marc Groeneweg <Marc.Groeneweg@sidn.nl>
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All,

At SIDN (for .nl) we have our own form of registry lock called .nl control (https://www.sidn.nl/en/nl-control?language_id=2). Perhaps this can be used as input for a joined effort in increasing security around registry/registrar operations.

Regards,
Marc Groeneweg

On 25/02/2019, 14:57, "regext on behalf of Gavin Brown" <regext-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of gavin.brown@centralnic.com> wrote:

    If a BoF happens in Prague I will certainly attend.
    
    On 25/02/2019 07:26, Alexander Mayrhofer wrote:
    > Antoin, all,
    > 
    >  
    > 
    > for now this is more a question / request to the group, rather than a
    > specific agenda slot request – but:
    > 
    >  
    > 
    > In the light of the recent attacks on registration interfaces, do we
    > want to take a fresh look at standardization of “Registry Lock” /
    > “Security Lock”. There’s some previous work on this topic (see
    > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wallstrom-epp-registrant-problem-statement-00).
    > As Patrick pointed out, there’s also some IPR considerations in this
    > area (See his blog post at
    > http://www.circleid.com/posts/20150603_registry_lock_or_epp_with_two_factor_authentication/).
    > 
    >  
    > 
    > I constantly hear from registrars that “Security Lock” (our product
    > name) would be much more attractive if there wasn’t a myriad of
    > different processes at each registry – so my take is that there’s room
    > for standardization (which probably goes beyond the pure EPP extension).
    >  I’m also hearing some fellow ccTLD colleages are interesting in a
    > common “profile”.
    > 
    > Would regext be the right spot for such a discussion? If yes, would it
    > be interesting to hold a 20 minutes slot in Prague? Or even a Bar-BoF
    > before we “report back” to the working group?
    > 
    >  
    > 
    > Best,
    > 
    > Alex
    > 
    >  
    > 
    >  
    > 
    > *Von:*regext <regext-bounces@ietf.org> *Im Auftrag von *Antoin Verschuren
    > *Gesendet:* Sonntag, 24. Februar 2019 14:43
    > *An:* Registration Protocols Extensions <regext@ietf.org>
    > *Betreff:* [regext] Preliminary agenda for Prague, and call for agenda items
    > 
    >  
    > 
    > Hi all,
    > 
    > Please find the preliminary agenda for Prague attached.
    > I hope I captured everyone that has requested time to speak. If not, let
    > the chairs know.
    > We still have a little bit of time left on the agenda, so if you have
    > urgent agenda items, let us know as well.
    > If you are on the agenda, start preparing ;-)
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > Regards, Jim and Antoin
    > 
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