[regext] Re: RESTful EPP Charter side meeting Thursday 13:00
Maarten Wullink <maarten.wullink@sidn.nl> Thu, 25 July 2024 23:54 UTC
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Subject: [regext] Re: RESTful EPP Charter side meeting Thursday 13:00
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Hi, Many thanks to the attendees of the side meeting, please find the notes below and the slides presented are attached to this reply. If i made a mistake with any of the notes, please correct me. Let’s use this feedback for further discussion on this work to determine the best venue for the formal proceedings. - Maarten — notes — Sidemeeting notes 25-07-205 Motivation - RIR may use REPP (ARIN, Jasdip (JD)) - Multiple RIR coulde use a common model (ip, autnum mappings) - RIRs are already using distinct RESTful APIs - Problems to solve -Jim Gould (JG) - How much to re-use from EPP can also be a problem, greenfield vs iterative vs .. - Transition from EPP to REPP -JD - DELEG, requirements are hard and soft, similar problem, trying to change existing solution howto avoid stepping on toes existing stuff? - Rquirements JG - intent to re-use all existing EPP extensions, need mapping all extensions - do analysis what extensions can be supported and which not - json-schema, should be used and validation is very important - no protocol extension was succesful, don't we need to support it? - object extension are used by Verisign - check/info for some extension requires a message - what is backwards compat requirement, do we want to do this? William Caroll (Verisign) - json, esthablish compatibillity between xml and json in both directions - EPP and REPP can co-exist at the same time JD - some semantics may exist in json and not in xml and some actors may want to ignore xml all together. Scott Hollenbeck (Verisign) - it is allowed to ignore elements from base schema 5730 - new schema part could be added in form of extension - ICANN requires gTLD to use RFC 5730 and may require REPP and some legacy operators may not like this. - A new solution such as REPP cannot obsolete core EPP because 5730 and its potential successor are required by ICANN for gTLD agreement. Rick Wilhelm (PIR) - who is going to use this? gtld could use this as add-on adapter on top of current existing code. some users such are RIR might like Greenfield as not to be limited by DNR community rules. - Is positive because from businesspoint, tls is a pain for registrars and making implemenation easier will attract new registrars and not using reseller potentially. > Op 25 jul 2024, om 11:13 heeft Arnt Gulbrandsen <arnt@gulbrandsen.priv.no> het volgende geschreven: > > [You don't often get email from arnt@gulbrandsen.priv.no. Learn why this is important at https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification ] > > Hi, > > I've attended the meetings since Prague but am not an EPP person. Permit me > to offer a different perspective, based on what you've been saying about > the other topics of discussion. > > When you've talked about EPP during those meetings, you talked about the > data model, the commands, but you hardly ever mentioned XML. XML didn't > sound like a core part of the EPP that exists in your minds. I heard many > arguments against or in favour of one proposal or another, but noone stood > up and the mike to say "because … XML", see? XML seems about as central as > TCP. > > On this view, REPP might be called an unanticipated extension. If the data > model and commands don't change at all, then this isn't the kind of > extension that 5730-3 define, but it does extend that which you talk about > as being EPP. > > On the other hand, if the data model or commands do change… so I suggest > that a separate WG makes sense if and only if REPP is permitted to change > the data model or commands. > > Arnt > > _______________________________________________ > regext mailing list -- regext@ietf.org > To unsubscribe send an email to regext-leave@ietf.org
- [regext] RESTful EPP Charter side meeting Thursda… Maarten Wullink
- [regext] Re: RESTful EPP Charter side meeting Thu… Orie Steele
- [regext] Re: RESTful EPP Charter side meeting Thu… George Michaelson
- [regext] Re: RESTful EPP Charter side meeting Thu… Jim Reid
- [regext] Re: RESTful EPP Charter side meeting Thu… George Michaelson
- [regext] Re: RESTful EPP Charter side meeting Thu… Hollenbeck, Scott
- [regext] Re: RESTful EPP Charter side meeting Thu… George Michaelson
- [regext] Re: [Ext] Re: RESTful EPP Charter side m… Gavin Brown
- [regext] Re: RESTful EPP Charter side meeting Thu… Andrew Newton (andy)
- [regext] Re: RESTful EPP Charter side meeting Thu… kowalik@denic.de
- [regext] Re: RESTful EPP Charter side meeting Thu… kowalik
- [regext] Re: RESTful EPP Charter side meeting Thu… Gould, James
- [regext] Re: RESTful EPP Charter side meeting Thu… kowalik@denic.de
- [regext] Re: RESTful EPP Charter side meeting Thu… Rubens Kuhl
- [regext] Re: [Ext] Re: RESTful EPP Charter side m… Gavin Brown
- [regext] Re: RESTful EPP Charter side meeting Thu… Gould, James
- [regext] Re: RESTful EPP Charter side meeting Thu… mario.loffredo
- [regext] Re: RESTful EPP Charter side meeting Thu… Arnt Gulbrandsen
- [regext] Re: RESTful EPP Charter side meeting Thu… Maarten Wullink
- [regext] Re: [Ext] Re: RESTful EPP Charter side m… Maarten Wullink
- [regext] Re: RESTful EPP Charter side meeting Thu… Gould, James
- [regext] Re: RESTful EPP Charter side meeting Thu… Gould, James