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Re: [regext] Privacy and HR considerations for draft-ietf-regext-verificationcode

Niels ten Oever <lists@digitaldissidents.org> Wed, 19 December 2018 17:26 UTC

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Subject: Re: [regext] Privacy and HR considerations for draft-ietf-regext-verificationcode
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On 12/19/18 4:45 PM, Andrew Newton wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 10:38 AM Niels ten Oever
> <lists@digitaldissidents.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Everything is possible without the IETF: the Internet has open standards. So IETF is never solely responsible for anything. But IETF is setting a norm and thus normalizing and enabling this behavior. I think this is made clear in the text, and even clearer in the new text proposed by Gurshabad.
> 
> Except that is not true. The IETF is not setting a norm. The norm
> already exists. Any abusive authority that can force a registry to
> obey verification codes already has the power to force a registry to
> remove domain names.
> 
> -andy
> 

I am not quite sure I understand, are you saying an Internet standard is not a norm?

The verification code normalizes and facilitates the behavior that is potentially violating the human and privacy rights of registrants. 

Similar behavior might exists, but not in this way. This status code makes it easier and standardizes it, and thus facilitates and enables it. 

Therefore I think it should not be standardized, but if we do, we should at least say something about these inherent risks in implementation.

Best,

Niels


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Niels ten Oever
Researcher and PhD Candidate
Datactive Research Group
University of Amsterdam

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