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Re: [regext] Privacy and HR considerations for draft-ietf-regext-verificationcode

Andrew Newton <andy@hxr.us> Wed, 19 December 2018 17:58 UTC

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From: Andrew Newton <andy@hxr.us>
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2018 12:57:16 -0500
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Subject: Re: [regext] Privacy and HR considerations for draft-ietf-regext-verificationcode
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On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 12:26 PM Niels ten Oever
<lists@digitaldissidents.org> wrote:
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> I am not quite sure I understand, are you saying an Internet standard is not a norm?

No, it's a technical specification.

>From an ethical point of view, I am not opposed to privacy or human
rights considerations in IETF documents. But practically speaking, if
discussions are to break down into meta-conversations on the
philosophical differences between what is or is not a specification or
what is or is not policy, I conclude that such efforts are futile and
a waste of time.

-andy

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