Re: [regext] Benjamin Kaduk's No Objection on draft-ietf-regext-org-ext-10: (with COMMENT)

"Linlin Zhou" <zhoulinlin@cnnic.cn> Tue, 04 December 2018 02:57 UTC

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From: "Linlin Zhou" <zhoulinlin@cnnic.cn>
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Subject: Re: [regext] Benjamin Kaduk's No Objection on draft-ietf-regext-org-ext-10: (with COMMENT)
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Dear Benjamin,
As some definitions are specified in the draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis, I suggest removing "which are not formally defined" and making following changes in the first section. Does that work for you?

In the business model of domain registration, we usually have three roles of entities: a registrant, a registrar and a registry, as defined in section 9 of [draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis]. There may be other roles of entities involved in the domain registration process, such as resellers, DNS operators in section 9 of [draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis], privacy proxies, etc. 

A domain reseller is an individual or a company that acts as an agent for accredited registrars. DNS operator is defined in section 9 of [draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis]. A privacy proxy is an entity used for domain registrations to protect the private information of the individuals and organizations. These kind of entities are defined as "organizations" with different role types in this document.

Regards,
Linlin


Linlin Zhou
 
From: Hollenbeck, Scott
Date: 2018-12-03 21:12
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Subject: Re: [regext] Benjamin Kaduk's No Objection on draft-ietf-regext-org-ext-10: (with COMMENT)
Works for me if it addresses Ben’s comment.
 
Scott
 
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [regext] Benjamin Kaduk's No Objection on draft-ietf-regext-org-ext-10: (with COMMENT)
 
Dear Scott,
Thanks for your comments. Please review if the following changes are workable for you.


In the business model of domain registration, we usually have three roles of entities: a registrant, a registrar and a registry, as defined in section 9 of [draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis]. There may be other roles of entities involved in the domain registration process, such as resellers, DNS operators in section 9 of [draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis], privacy proxies, etc.


A domain reseller is an individual or a company that acts as an agent for accredited registrars. DNS operator is defined in section 9 of [draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis]. A privacy proxy is an entity used for domain registrations to protect the private information of the individuals and organizations. These kind of entities are defined as "organizations" with different role types in this document.
 
Regards,
Linlin


Linlin Zhou
 
From: Hollenbeck, Scott
Date: 2018-11-30 20:15
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Subject: RE: [regext] Benjamin Kaduk's No Objection on draft-ietf-regext-org-ext-10: (with COMMENT)
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> Thank you for addressing my Discuss points!
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> [Original Comment section preserved below]
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> Section 1
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>    In the business model of domain registration, we usually have 3 roles
>    of entities: a registrant, a registrar and a registry.  There may be
>    other roles of entities involved in the domain registration process
>    which are not formally defined, such as resellers, DNS service
>    operators, privacy proxies, etc.
> 
> nit: Perhaps I am misreading, but are we not going to formally define
> these entities in the next paragraph (in which case "yet" might be worth
> adding)?
 
If definitions are needed, it may make sense to cite those described in draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis. The Datatracker says it's in the RFC Editor's AUTH48 state, so it should be available as an RFC in a matter of days.
 
Scott