Re: [Resolverless-dns] Paper on Resolver-less DNS

Viktor Dukhovni <ietf-dane@dukhovni.org> Tue, 27 August 2019 19:29 UTC

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> On Aug 23, 2019, at 7:50 AM, Erik Sy <sy@informatik.uni-hamburg.de> wrote:
> 
> Do you think the bullet point "There is a risk of rendering a site
> unusable." does apply to DANE TLSA?

No more so than with an expired certificate, or similar server operator
negligence.

-- 
	Viktor.