Re: [Revampers] www.ietf.org website revamp community review committee - 20170627 - notes

[Russ Housley <[e-mail]>]

Mark:

Are you suggesting things for the datatracker sidebar or for the items across the top?

Russ


> On Jun 27, 2017, at 10:01 PM, Mark Nottingham <[e-mail]> wrote:
> 
> Regarding the "tools" / "sidebar" issue -- I think that it's likely that active IETF participants are going to migrate to using datatracker as their "home" page, and that's fine.
> 
> It does mean that datatracker needs to be improved to suit that purpose; adding a few links in appropriate places should do the trick (and I note that there's a LOT of whitespace on the datatracker front page :).
> 
> If that's coordinated with the tools folks, it could be ready by 99, and doing so might reduce the amount of concern / complaints about the new site. We could also drop the extra "tools" menu.
> 
> 
> Otherwise, just a few nits:
> 
> * "Understanding our documents" on the front page should probably be something like "Understanding the IETF"
> 
> * The IETF logo looks out of place in a white box on the banner; can we get a transparent-background version with the type reversed? It might require using a different background colour for the banner.
> 
> * The top navigation doesn't seem particularly well organised; there seems to be some duplication and awkward categorisations. E.g., many of the entries under "Internet Standards" would fit equally well under "How we work" as well as "about" -- this is confusing.
> 
> * There seems to be a non-existant "Making the Internet work better" page in the bread crumbs.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 
>> On 28 Jun 2017, at 5:35 am, Greg Wood <[e-mail]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Here is a link to folder with the recording (MP4 of the video) from the conversation last week:
>> 
>> https://isoc.box.com/v/IETF-Website-CRC-201706
>> 
>> Notes are also below. Please let me know if I have missed anything or there are any questions.
>> 
>> Here are a few highlights:
>> 
>> • Send notes from the call around (and the recording) to spark input/questions <—THIS NOTE
>> • Suggestions about specific individuals to review the beta site<—ENCOURAGED!
>> • Plan to release beta.ietf.org ~8 July (before IETF 99)
>> • Check-in with Revampers after IETF 99/before production <—LIKELY FIRST WEEK OF AUGUST
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> -Greg
>> 
>> NOTES
>> 
>> 0. Agenda bash
>> 
>> 1. Introduction
>> Community Review Committee == Revampers
>> 
>> 2. Review of project process and progress
>> 	• So far...
>> 	• SOW development
>> 	• Input from interviews with audiences (participants, potential participants, non-participants)
>> 	• Review by CRC and community 
>> 	• Preview for community at IETF 98 (including update at the WG Chairs meeting)
>> 
>>    b) Currently.
>> 	• finishing content, working with content review groups (EMO Directorate (nee EDU-Team), IESG, Secretariat
>> 	• Fixing bugs and implementing features with Torchbox
>> 	• Testing with groups (non-participants, potential participants)
>> 
>>   c) Upcoming
>> 	• Review by IESG and IAB
>> 	• Planning for community “beta” preview to be released around 8 July--in advance of IETF99
>> 	• “Office hours” to be held at IETF 99 (similar to IETF 98) and update at the WG Chairs meeting
>> 	• Public release on the schedule for early August
>> 
>> 3. Review/tour of revamped website
>> https://beta.ietf.org 
>> ietfwagtail / ietfshowme
>> 
>> 	• Responsive mode
>> 	• Blog posts
>> 	• Meetings
>> 	• Quick links for current IETF participants
>> 
>> 
>> 4. Discussion
>> 
>> Requesting CRC input:
>> 	• How to test/confirm technical requirements from SOW including:
>> 		• HTML/Open standards
>> 		• Plug-ins and Javascript
>> 		• Accessibility
>> 		• Responsive design
>> 		• SOW: https://iaoc.ietf.org/documents/IETF-Website-SOW-20140604-Final.pdf 
>> 
>> 	• Suggestions about IETF community review process
>> 		• Including suggestions about specific individuals to review
>> 
>> 	• Next steps on website review development
>> 
>> Comment: Need a new name for the Tools “quick links” tab
>> 	• Suggestion “Popular” instead of “Tools” for the name
>> 
>> 5. AOB/Next steps
>> 	• Send notes from the call around (and the recording) to spark further input
>> 	• Check-in with Revampers after IETF 99/before production
>> 
>> 
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