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Re: [rfc-i] Wrong Internet search results for new RFCs

Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> Tue, 03 May 2022 07:26 UTC

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On 2022-05-03, at 08:06, Christian Huitema <huitema@huitema.net> wrote:
> 
> Uh, No. The spiders and indexers are still going to pick "rfc9148" from "https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/authors/rfc9148-to-be.html”.

But that’s OK, because there will be a permanent redirect as soon as the real thing is available.

> If you want safety, you need to obfuscate that some more. Maybe you can get away with: 

Safety?
Given that drafts can be sitting in that state for a year or so, it is totally appropriate for people to find them under the new name.

Grüße, Carsten 
(who has three drafts in AUTH48-DONE right now, one approaching 10 weeks there)

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