[rfc-i] DOIs redux

[brian.e.carpenter at gmail.com (Brian E Carpenter)]

On 26/08/2016 08:51, HANSEN, TONY L wrote:
> There is a portion of the DOI agreement that says we SHOULD include DOIs for other references, when possible.
> 
> RFC 7669:
> 
>        4.4.  Use of DOIs in RFCs
> 
>           The DOI agency requests that documents that are assigned DOIs in turn
>           include DOIs when possible when referring to other organizations'
>           documents.
> 
> It?s a self-preservation issue: the more you make them visible, the more often they get used.

Fair enough. But "requests" surely doesn't translate to a SHOULD in the IETF sense?
It's more like a nice to have. Over on xml2rfc this was described as an RFC Editor duty,
which I don't think is justified.

> I could see having a real-time bibxml conversion tool. That is, a reference to http://xml2rfc.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml-doi/DOI# would reach out to the appropriate place and return the bibxml-formatted reference entry for the given DOI. The tool that Carsten Borman created might be a useful start to this.
> 
> But it does require that the DOI database being referenced actually have good data that can be converted.

Exactly. And until proof of the contrary, that doesn't exist, so automating this is
a mug's game IMHO. In any case: before people charge off and start implementing,
we need clear guidance from the RSE (imnsho).

   Brian

> 
> 	Tony Hansen 
> 
> On 8/25/16, 4:06 PM, "rfc-interest on behalf of Brian E Carpenter" <rfc-interest-bounces at rfc-editor.org on behalf of brian.e.carpenter at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>     Hi,
>     
>     There's a ticket open for xml2rfc that starts:
>     
>     >  Because RFCs now have DOI numbers, the reference sections in RFCs are now
>     >  supposed to include DOIs for all references for which they have been
>     >  assigned...
>     
>     I don't see why that follows. Has the RFC Editor actually got a policy on this?
>     
>     It isn't a trivial requirement to support this automatically in xml2rfc (or
>     to insert manually, for that matter).
> 
>