Re: [rfc-i] getting heads up on RFC-editor state for a draft

Jean Mahoney <jmahoney@amsl.com> Tue, 22 March 2022 21:44 UTC

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Subject: Re: [rfc-i] getting heads up on RFC-editor state for a draft
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Hi Michael,

On 3/22/22 4:26 AM, Michael Richardson wrote:
> In some other fora we discussed how entry into AUTH48 state is
> non-deterministic, and if authors could have a "maybe next week" heads up so
> that they could set aside some time, that would probably help.

[JM] This is not quite a "maybe next week" notification, but when a 
document enters RFC-EDITOR state, an email is sent to the authors. The 
RPC tries to move a document from RFC-EDITOR state to AUTH48 within 3 
weeks (some documents may take longer, others can be processed more 
quickly. It just depends on document complexity, any cluster 
dependencies, and editor availability [1]).

The RPC is discussing providing more information in these email 
notifications so authors will have an general idea of when AUTH48 will 
occur.


>
> I suffer from enough narcism that I use followthatpage on my DT profile page
> to learn about changes.  I'd really like to poll some RFC-editor Q state on a
> single document.  We have, for instance:
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/current_queue.php#draft-richardson-mud-qrcode
>
> But, it is really the entire queue presented.  I thought I could judge how
> soon the document would reach the top by... how far it was from the top.

[JM] The default sort order for the Current Queue page is by the common 
sequence of the states (EDIT -> RFC-EDITOR -> AUTH48) then by weeks in 
queue. Even if the sort order was reversed, it would be hard to 
determine a "top" of the Current Queue page because the queue is served 
by several editors.


>
> If I poll:
>    https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-richardson-mud-qrcode/history/
>
> I think that I get some useful information, but no prediction.
> Maybe I'm missing something.

[JM] You can take a look at the CurrQstats page [1] to get a feel for 
how long documents are in a given state. This may allow you to estimate 
when your document will enter AUTH48. You should check back for more 
current queue info when your document enters RFC-EDITOR state.

Best regards,

Jean


[1] Things are moving fairly quickly at the moment -- the average number 
of weeks in EDIT and RFC-EDITOR states is 1.7 and 1.2, respectively:  
https://www.rfc-editor.org/reports/CurrQstats.txt


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