Re: [rfc-i] Citing internet drafts

[Paul Kyzivat <[e-mail]>]

IIUC the restriction that references to drafts must be informational 
only applies to *RFC*s? It is important that *drafts* be able to 
normatively reference other drafts as they progress in parallel, with 
the limitation that they will be forced to progress together, at which 
point they will become references to RFCs. Right?

	Thanks,
	Paul

On 9/2/19 9:37 AM, Julian Reschke wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> I just saw
> <https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/trac/changeset/3263>, which
> in turn mentions draft-flanagan-7322bis-03.
> 
> <https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-flanagan-7322bis-03#section-4.8.6.4>
> says:
> 
>> 4.8.6.4.  Referencing Internet-Drafts
>>
>>    References to Internet Drafts may only appear as informative
>>    references.  Given that several revisions of an I-D may be produced
>>    in a short time frame, references must include the posting date
>>    (month and year), the full Internet-Draft file name (including the
>>    version number), and the phrase "Internet Draft".  Authors may
>>    reference multiple versions of an I-D.  If the referenced I-D was
>>    also later published as an RFC, then that RFC must also be listed.
>>
>>    [SYMBOLIC-TAG]  Last name, First initial., Ed. (if applicable) and
>>    First initial.  Last name, Ed. (if applicable), "I-D Title", Internet
>>    Draft, draft-string-NN, Month Year.
>>
>>    Example:
>>
>>    [RFC-STYLE] Flanagan, H. and S.  Ginoza, "RFC Style Guide", Internet
>>    Draft, draft-flanagan-style-01, June 2013.
> 
> This is a change from 7322, which had
> (<https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7322#section-4.8.6.4>):
> 
>> 4.8.6.4.  Referencing Internet-Drafts
>>
>>    References to Internet-Drafts may only appear as informative
>>    references.  Given that several revisions of an I-D may be produced
>>    in a short time frame, references must include the posting date
>>    (month and year), the full Internet-Draft file name (including the
>>    version number), and the phrase "Work in Progress".  Authors may
>>    reference multiple versions of an I-D.  If the referenced I-D was
>>    also later published as an RFC, then that RFC must also be listed.
>>
>>       [SYMBOLIC-TAG]  Last name, First initial., Ed. (if applicable)
>>                       and First initial. Last name, Ed. (if
>>                       applicable), "I-D Title", Work in Progress,
>>                       draft-string-NN, Month Year.
>>
>>      Example:
>>
>>       [RFC-STYLE] Flanagan, H. and S. Ginoza, "RFC Style Guide",
>>                   Work in Progress, draft-flanagan-style-01,
>>                   June 2013.
> 
> I personally find this an improvement, but two questions come to mind:
> 
> 1.) When is this change supposed to go in effect?
> 
> 2.) Isn't this in conflict with today's Internet Draft boilerplate, wich
> clearly says: 'It is inappropriate to use Internet-Drafts as reference
> material or to cite them other than as "work in progress."'. Is that
> clause going to change as well?
> 
> Best regards, Julian
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