Re: [rfc-i] Tao [3rd party SDO cross-referencing of IETF work (was: Re: Chair/datatracker tracking expired WG documents ?)]
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From: Tim Wicinski <tjw.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2022 10:53:18 -0400
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Subject: Re: [rfc-i] Tao [3rd party SDO cross-referencing of IETF work (was:
Re: Chair/datatracker tracking expired WG documents ?)]
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+1 to convey the "sense" of the IETF, if that is still possible. On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 10:46 AM Salz, Rich <rsalz= 40akamai.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > Shrug, we disagree. If we haven't found the text that appears on the > front-matter of every single draft to be compelling enough, then adding > more words to an overview document will not change things. YMMV, which is > shorthand for we're not going to change each other's minds. > > Neither list here is the appropriate discussion forum, so I'll stop now > and point to https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tao-discuss or the > more likely to be useful https://github.com/ietf/tao/issues/44 > > >
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