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Re: [rfc-i] Unicode names in RFCs and xml2rfc

Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> Wed, 04 December 2019 11:00 UTC

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To: Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com>, Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>, rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org
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Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2019 12:00:34 +0100
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Subject: Re: [rfc-i] Unicode names in RFCs and xml2rfc
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On 04.12.2019 11:34, Henrik Levkowetz wrote:
> Hi Martin,
>
> On 2019-12-04 11:20, Martin Thomson wrote:
>> On Wed, Dec 4, 2019, at 20:54, Henrik Levkowetz wrote:
>>> I'd love to make it possible to use a <contributor> element with the same
>>> child elements as <author> in text, to achieve rendering of contributors
>>> in the same format as authors, with the same provisions for both ASCII and
>>> non-ASCII content.  However, accomplishing any changes to the schema which
>>> the design team didn't envision has been hard; so hard, actually, that I've
>>> had to step back and mostly stop engaging on the xml2rfc-dev list.
>>
>> In this case, where I'm looking for acknowledgments only, a
>> <contributor> element wouldn't help.  I'm just looking for a name,
>> not something equivalent to an author block.
>
> There are several possible renderings for an author block, depending on
> context.  Making it possible to control this for a contributor entry would
> make sense.

That's a possibility, but IMHO that just makes things more complicated
than needed. Sometimes a string is just a string.

> ... > You're trying to use the <u> entry for something it very explicitly
wasn't
> designed for.  A <contributor> entry would not only be able to give you the
> output you want, it would also provide the correct semantic labelling in the
> XML file.
> ...

What would that labelling be used for? Not every name mentioned in an
RFC necessarily refers to a contributor, after all.

Best regards, Julian
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