IETF Logo Mail Archive

Re: [rfc-i] 3rd party SDO cross-referencing of IETF work (was: Re: Chair/datatracker tracking expired WG documents ?)

"Salz, Rich" <rsalz=40akamai.com@dmarc.ietf.org> Tue, 29 March 2022 21:48 UTC

Return-Path: <rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org>
X-Original-To: ietfarch-rfc-interest-archive@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ietfarch-rfc-interest-archive@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 717F23A0896 for <ietfarch-rfc-interest-archive@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 29 Mar 2022 14:48:26 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=ietf.org; s=ietf1; t=1648590506; bh=A9PH6iJeR2+YJRXLCkUXpH5wySqS0y0I9jXNwFNaP50=; h=To:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:List-Id:List-Unsubscribe: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Help:List-Subscribe:Cc:From; b=XUWGDipnVzHXsqDtlBLr68bA0LLqpK+80fwej6tHgzWiV19fAOVaY94W8TYPCGS2h trsXVI1xH66z1zMR/78eTmdeM+XrVlXZDCkYl5TtT+Z2qRZ7xE7IAHs06vWZG7xZ2g SC88u52VlBlPFi+73j5ZxwITCyNVx0DGqSSeDH4A=
Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01CE13A08B1; Tue, 29 Mar 2022 14:48:22 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=ietf.org; s=ietf1; t=1648590502; bh=A9PH6iJeR2+YJRXLCkUXpH5wySqS0y0I9jXNwFNaP50=; h=From:To:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:List-Id: List-Unsubscribe:List-Archive:List-Post:List-Help:List-Subscribe: Cc; b=aa79WkL8FddxOEhFfcfbnl+1jW4QU5F3r11I8SdkIOJopHvqi4tdmkj9tuXk8KjXH YNFBG43QS1LUA2FAeThcj9H9YNfLrvNKYvo4nOexibrG70BLqVrUZ7nvBJowmcqqWA 6B5/FYUm+BxFNExYcjRvMetYnXcqEyVnTCAfPCqs=
X-Original-To: rfc-interest@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: rfc-interest@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64FB13A07B2 for <rfc-interest@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 29 Mar 2022 14:48:11 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.108
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.108 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=akamai.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lHl79aXzW2_7 for <rfc-interest@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 29 Mar 2022 14:48:07 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mx0a-00190b01.pphosted.com (mx0a-00190b01.pphosted.com [IPv6:2620:100:9001:583::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 78CE93A079F for <rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org>; Tue, 29 Mar 2022 14:48:05 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from pps.filterd (m0122332.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by mx0a-00190b01.pphosted.com (8.16.1.2/8.16.1.2) with ESMTP id 22TJ915l018591; Tue, 29 Mar 2022 22:47:58 +0100
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=akamai.com; h=from : to : cc : subject : date : message-id : references : in-reply-to : content-type : content-id : content-transfer-encoding : mime-version; s=jan2016.eng; bh=Y7LoUSb9OI+IB9ppPnfd8+SPVDSqvmY6d0gTSpcjMyM=; b=PEZUeZWn2jCQYhb/sS97YChAUiSiUchmU9VdrdDQ8w+Dj1CGI7ViV5WKARvD076Dt7TU bOBl+bsXoy/8Zsjq/4kHl9mm4+LeLPp8TPlZ+tZPjYpZSwrvEiaOZU40cxq+Zhzn+bTA xIiuIg//zWcMJY5Y1YQj91d6BXDUrrR5gaNVRLiXjtLWVXDyNiTAsXGQgRRgJ24pRd7B RKjiUypI21Yfq54WYq2FRl0TOixduZUIyV2bdIQkAGlVQpTpegc6l7wGBOBGfujqnDTw qk98JBqEaAmXO3j0lKDd0wzoqTx3Y8Q2RtdOEYXyb1ANyCb+4yNB9ENp9BTeVTxjGyZz +Q==
Received: from prod-mail-ppoint1 (prod-mail-ppoint1.akamai.com [184.51.33.18] (may be forged)) by mx0a-00190b01.pphosted.com (PPS) with ESMTPS id 3f1urqmbyw-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 29 Mar 2022 22:47:57 +0100
Received: from pps.filterd (prod-mail-ppoint1.akamai.com [127.0.0.1]) by prod-mail-ppoint1.akamai.com (8.16.1.2/8.16.1.2) with SMTP id 22TLa8fo002084; Tue, 29 Mar 2022 17:47:52 -0400
Received: from email.msg.corp.akamai.com ([172.27.91.27]) by prod-mail-ppoint1.akamai.com with ESMTP id 3f1x5yp2k1-2 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 29 Mar 2022 17:47:52 -0400
Received: from USMA1EX-DAG1MB3.msg.corp.akamai.com (172.27.123.103) by usma1ex-dag4mb6.msg.corp.akamai.com (172.27.91.25) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384) id 15.2.986.5; Tue, 29 Mar 2022 17:47:51 -0400
Received: from USMA1EX-DAG1MB1.msg.corp.akamai.com (172.27.123.101) by usma1ex-dag1mb3.msg.corp.akamai.com (172.27.123.103) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1497.32; Tue, 29 Mar 2022 17:47:51 -0400
Received: from USMA1EX-DAG1MB1.msg.corp.akamai.com ([172.27.123.101]) by usma1ex-dag1mb1.msg.corp.akamai.com ([172.27.123.101]) with mapi id 15.00.1497.033; Tue, 29 Mar 2022 17:47:51 -0400
To: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" <db3546@att.com>, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>, "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" <pthubert@cisco.com>, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>, Joel Halpern Direct <jmh.direct@joelhalpern.com>
Thread-Topic: [rfc-i] 3rd party SDO cross-referencing of IETF work (was: Re: Chair/datatracker tracking expired WG documents ?)
Thread-Index: AQHYQDfUComjlE9H+E610K9BjoBDp6zQUiMAgAAMqoCAAD3TAIAD8UkAgAEI34CAAYKIAP//04SA
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2022 21:47:50 +0000
Message-ID: <39A3A9C9-5EED-4E44-9695-6186C5A3F7AC@akamai.com>
References: <Yj2d4DJMFWJOxoZa@faui48e.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> <317196df-3363-36c9-2421-02d9e229f664@joelhalpern.com> <CO1PR11MB488130CFF42A9F309AE1E212D81A9@CO1PR11MB4881.namprd11.prod.outlook.com> <95b5dab0-3eb5-536d-85fc-d428f26364ed@joelhalpern.com> <CABcZeBOSMRffY6cXjwn7A6d=JWDJmmBrgHxiPD-XRMTMazOjLw@mail.gmail.com> <CO1PR11MB48812B0C5B88C190FB4A28ECD81D9@CO1PR11MB4881.namprd11.prod.outlook.com> <7042bc99-5d14-993c-198b-1080b4ff5636@gmail.com> <CH0PR02MB8291A7A9598871412C035882D61E9@CH0PR02MB8291.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
In-Reply-To: <CH0PR02MB8291A7A9598871412C035882D61E9@CH0PR02MB8291.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
Accept-Language: en-US
Content-Language: en-US
X-MS-Has-Attach:
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/16.59.22031300
x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1
x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted
x-originating-ip: [172.27.118.139]
Content-ID: <360A45D9559E954BBF477BEF5D9549FE@akamai.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:6.0.425, 18.0.850 definitions=2022-03-29_09:2022-03-29, 2022-03-29 signatures=0
X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 bulkscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=993 malwarescore=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 adultscore=0 phishscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2202240000 definitions=main-2203290116
X-Proofpoint-ORIG-GUID: 0WhS_0cTQtX2FPWTz_-54OpcDU2-1ETV
X-Proofpoint-GUID: 0WhS_0cTQtX2FPWTz_-54OpcDU2-1ETV
X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=baseguard engine=ICAP:2.0.205,Aquarius:18.0.850,Hydra:6.0.425,FMLib:17.11.64.514 definitions=2022-03-29_09,2022-03-29_01,2022-02-23_01
X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 mlxlogscore=979 priorityscore=1501 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 clxscore=1011 suspectscore=0 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxscore=0 adultscore=0 impostorscore=0 spamscore=0 malwarescore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2202240000 definitions=main-2203290118
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/rfc-interest/BOUfXpPQMD3Gt2Z5w7YBGgrpXuo>
Subject: Re: [rfc-i] 3rd party SDO cross-referencing of IETF work (was: Re: Chair/datatracker tracking expired WG documents ?)
X-BeenThere: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: "A list for discussion of the RFC series and RFC Editor functions." <rfc-interest.rfc-editor.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://mailman.rfc-editor.org/mailman/options/rfc-interest>, <mailto:rfc-interest-request@rfc-editor.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/rfc-interest/>
List-Post: <mailto:rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org>
List-Help: <mailto:rfc-interest-request@rfc-editor.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://mailman.rfc-editor.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-interest>, <mailto:rfc-interest-request@rfc-editor.org?subject=subscribe>
Cc: "wgchairs@ietf.org" <wgchairs@ietf.org>, "rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org" <rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Errors-To: rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org
Sender: "rfc-interest" <rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org>
X-Original-From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz=40akamai.com@dmarc.ietf.org>

>    These couple of sentences in the Tao are actually from RFC2026 and about the transient state of I-Ds.

In fact, the current version of the Tao (maintained at https://github.com/ietf/tao) doesn't have that language, but instead just points to BCP 9. Phrases like "work in progress" are also removed, pointing to BCP 9.

We only just finished editing/merging before IETF 113, and there wasn't time to update the website.  Please take a look at the GitHub repo and see if the language there needs to be fixed.

I think Valery's point got lost :(


_______________________________________________
rfc-interest mailing list
rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org
https://mailman.rfc-editor.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-interest

v2.8.7 | Report a Bug | By Email